F1 2024: winter transition, development and pre season events

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by dfox

As with every super bowl performance, generally if you like the genre that they pick, you'll enjoy the show. If you don't like it, you'll hate the show. I listen to just about everything except country music, so I'm pretty easy.

I thought it was great. Listened to most of that music back in college at parties and whatnot, so the songs were nostalgic for me. The first few songs that were just usher were a little too R&B for my tastes, but the rest of the show was good.

I still think my favorite was the 2008 show with tom petty, or maybe 2005 with Paul McCartney... 2020 was good with the Reggaeton showing.. and Shakira... Also enjoyed the Weeknd's show in 2021.

YMMV.

The Who, Tom Petty, Prince and Bruno Mars are about it for me

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Killed by Death

Drive 2 Survive is out on the 23rd.
https://twitter.com/F1/status/175707...o-survive.html

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by dfox

I thought it was great. Listened to most of that music back in college at parties and whatnot, so the songs were nostalgic for me. The first few songs that were just usher were a little too R&B for my tastes, but the rest of the show was good.

I still think my favorite was the 2008 show with tom petty, or maybe 2005 with Paul McCartney... 2020 was good with the Reggaeton showing.. and Shakira... Also enjoyed the Weeknd's show in 2021.

YMMV.

Same. Usher did good job. He is getting up there in age to still move like that.

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

The Who, Tom Petty, Prince and Bruno Mars are about it for me

I couldn't name a single song from those artists. Then again I'm not a huge music person.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Same. Usher did good job. He is getting up there in age to still move like that.

I couldn't name a single song from those artists. Then again I'm not a huge music person.

Definite age gap at work here. CD's were relatively a new thing in my college days. Mostly still cassette tapes and records.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Definite age gap at work here. CD's were relatively a new thing in my college days. Mostly still cassette tapes and records.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

The Who, Tom Petty, Prince and Bruno Mars are about it for me

I Can See for Miles...ageless

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Drive 2 Survive is out on the 23rd.
https://twitter.com/F1/status/175707...o-survive.html

First spy-shots from MAX in the RB20 at Silverstone
Source => https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...appen-Red-Bull

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

First spy-shots from MAX in the RB20 at Silverstone
Source => https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...appen-Red-Bull

It's good that the team has held onto the original RBR colour design for the car while others are changing them every minute of the day.
It gets leaner and more arrow like and the rear wing is as low as it gets.

[Boomer 2019]

Originally Posted by dfox

As with every super bowl performance, generally if you like the genre that they pick, you'll enjoy the show. If you don't like it, you'll hate the show. I listen to just about everything except country music, so I'm pretty easy.

I thought it was great. Listened to most of that music back in college at parties and whatnot, so the songs were nostalgic for me. The first few songs that were just usher were a little too R&B for my tastes, but the rest of the show was good.

I still think my favorite was the 2008 show with tom petty, or maybe 2005 with Paul McCartney... 2020 was good with the Reggaeton showing.. and Shakira... Also enjoyed the Weeknd's show in 2021.

YMMV.

Yawn... who cares. Bring back Janet Jackson.

[HeelToeShift]

It's pretty sad to see everyone just copying the RB19 with their new cars - where is the audacity to engineer vs stealing someone's else work? Makes me even more interested to see what the RB20 will bring seeing as everyone is running what is now 1.5 year old RB car and won't understand the intricacies of it, the set-ups, etc.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

It's pretty sad to see everyone just copying the RB19 with their new cars - where is the audacity to engineer vs stealing someone's else work? Makes me even more interested to see what the RB20 will bring seeing as everyone is running what is now 1.5 year old RB car and won't understand the intricacies of it, the set-ups, etc.

It's called Ferrari and it didn't work out too well

MB Zero Pod failure also...

Nothing left to do but copy

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

It's called Ferrari and it didn't work out too well

MB Zero Pod failure also...

Nothing left to do but copy

I know it's part of the sport, and obviously you lose out on timing, knowing how to set the car up, adapting to the changes, etc. It it one thing to take inspiration from other, but straight up copying to me seems to a lack of actual engineering and design, which is what these guys are paid for.

[dfox]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

It's pretty sad to see everyone just copying the RB19 with their new cars - where is the audacity to engineer vs stealing someone's else work? Makes me even more interested to see what the RB20 will bring seeing as everyone is running what is now 1.5 year old RB car and won't understand the intricacies of it, the set-ups, etc.

The current generation of F1 cars are sunsetting. I think everyone is just taking the easy road out, and instead preparing for the 2026 changes, which will be drastic.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by dfox

The current generation of F1 cars are sunsetting. I think everyone is just taking the easy road out, and instead preparing for the 2026 changes, which will be drastic.

True, but if you're a team expecting to mount a challenge to RB, simply following them won't do anything other than put you on a similar but 1.5 year old trajectory - which of course does not account for what Newey has up his sleeve for the RB20.

[Car-Addicted]

Maybe LEW knows something? Nah.
Ferrari launches 'completely new' SF-24


“With the SF-24 we wanted to create a completely new platform and in fact, every area of the car has been redesigned, even if our starting point was the development direction we adopted last year and which saw us take a leap forward in terms of competitiveness in the final part of the season,” Cardile said.
https://racer.com/2024/02/13/ferrari...ely-new-sf-24/

Seems the Mercedes press release prior to the 2023 season sounded simular?

[Killed by Death]

So they didn't change the one thing I really wanted....The suspension

DICKS

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's good that the team has held onto the original RBR colour design for the car while others are changing them every minute of the day.
It gets leaner and more arrow like and the rear wing is as low as it gets.

Exactly

I heard the RB20 won't need much rear wing , much less than last year .

The nose is longer and the front is lighter , this means less of drag and a directer lighter steering response.
That's why the RB20 failed in the first crash test , because it was too light.
The 2024 optimized aero package works like a strong DRS .
In other words : A higher topspeed even without DRS .
The HONDA PU got more cooling vents on the hood ...

BTW : Today was Horner present at Silverstone , to see how MAX was running and to study the first telemetry track data .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

So they didn't change the one thing I really wanted....The suspension

DICKS

Charlie was waving in his SF24 !

[Artemis]

RB20 - Silverstone (2024):

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's good that the team has held onto the original RBR colour design for the car while others are changing them every minute of the day.
It gets leaner and more arrow like and the rear wing is as low as it gets.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX WILL show us 4**** this year

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

RB20 - Silverstone (2024):

Shame about the rain but it makes no difference to MAX.