New 2018 Z4

krusty · 08-19-2017, 10:11 AM

BMW has released official concept pics of the 2018 Z4 (and 8 series).

The proposed Z4 concept sadly does not do it for me: there is nothing about it that says Z4 to me. The long front bonnet is gone, the seating position has moved forward (just like any other car), it looks very American muscle car to me (rather than European classy), and the whole car has become far too big.

The only things I like are:
* the new front grille (but that's really a copy of Mercedes A class)
* the integration of the LCD display

Not sure if this design misfortune makes me happy or sad: on the one hand, it is disappointing not to see something more satisfying under that badge name we all love; and on the other hand, makes me happy to have my E86 Z4 coupe which I think is becoming more and more of a classic with time.

Articles at:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/17/...re-aggressive/

http://www.leftlanenews.com/photos/b...picture-4.html

Huz-Z · 08-19-2017, 04:22 PM

I really like it and the press so far has been highly positive with some saying that all other roadsters look dull by comparison.

A while back the survival of the Z4 was in doubt and now we have a return to a canvas top performance car. I think it will be a big success but let's give it a chance.

3798j · 08-19-2017, 05:11 PM

I really like the look too...and happy that BMW is getting back in the sports car business.

racerbruce · 08-19-2017, 08:50 PM

The only missing items are Batman and Robin....the beloved Z4 looking better by the day.

Andyh1 · 08-19-2017, 09:52 PM

It's not completely doing it for me. The front end just looks too Infiniti / Lexus.
Waiting to see more of it in the near future.

wdb · 08-20-2017, 06:45 AM

I wonder how they hope to compete against Jaguar and Mercedes with a turbo 4 when those cars have at least V6 and at most V8 and V12 motivation -- and the attendant sounds. It's a better looking car than I expected but I have reservations about its chances for success.

Efthreeoh · 08-20-2017, 07:39 AM

urrrrnt......

Next....

krusty · 08-20-2017, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerbruce

The only missing items are Batman and Robin....the beloved Z4 looking better by the day.

Lol - yes - it does look a bit Batman and Robin.
Also agree with the comment about the headlights looking a bit Infiniti or Lexus or some such thing. Hopefully, that will get a tweak.

The other interesting snippet in the press is that, as this is a joint project with Toyota, to differentiate between the Toyota version (Supra) and the BMW version, ... apparently, Toyota's version will be a COUPE and Toyota will NOT offer a roadster version.

By that logic, it seems to suggest that BMW will only offer a roadster version ... no coupé !

Huz-Z · 08-20-2017, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krusty

Lol - yes - it does look a bit Batman and Robin.
Also agree with the comment about the headlights looking a bit Infiniti or Lexus or some such thing. Hopefully, that will get a tweak.

The other interesting snippet in the press is that, as this is a joint project with Toyota, to differentiate between the Toyota version (Supra) and the BMW version, ... apparently, Toyota's version will be a COUPE and Toyota will NOT offer a roadster version.

By that logic, it seems to suggest that BMW will only offer a roadster version ... no coupé !

Hey Krusty!

The arrangement between BMW and Toyota was made public a while back. I started following this in early 2016 to get some idea of what the next Z4 might be like In any case you are correct that the terms of the arrangement are that BMW's car will be the roadster and Toyota will get the coupe.

Huz-Z · 08-21-2017, 07:24 AM

Car and Driver likes this:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/bmw...-and-info-news

MinneapolisJeff · 08-21-2017, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

Car and Driver likes this:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/bmw...-and-info-news

I like it as well, so does just about everyone I've showed pics to.

NickyC · 08-21-2017, 10:11 AM

The pricing, like all BMW pricing now, will be a complete joke.

yousefnjr · 08-21-2017, 11:09 AM

I like it a lot by now. Looks really fresh. Doesn't bother me that it's very different, the older ones are still here to enjoy

Don't think I'll be buying though. No doubt it'll be much faster, just not sure the experience/sounds will be any better. Will need to drive it to confirm, but I have a feeling the //M is a keeper for life!

Huz-Z · 08-21-2017, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyC

The pricing, like all BMW pricing now, will be a complete joke.

I share that concern also, although BMW have stated that the new car will be "about" the same price as the E89. To me, that means within 5%. Any more than 5% is not "about the same price". I guess we'll see.

However, I think BMW needs to be very careful here if they want this car to sell. The E89 was a sales disappointment and as a result, I think fans of the competition are loyal and entrenched. It will take a car that has looks and performance at a great price to get them to move to the G29.

Diesel_d66 · 08-23-2017, 09:13 AM

new z is supposed to weight between 3k and 3.2k lbs

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...weight-rumors/

I think it looks awesome!

JonM · 08-23-2017, 10:18 AM

I think there are a lot of little details to like on the concept car. It would be great if the production car didn't need door handles. And, if they would get away with the tiny side mirrors. The windshield frame looks WAY too small for rollover purposes. I don't think any of those will make the production car.

I do like the look in general and I like the roll hoops/cowlings. The wheels look nice, so do the air curtain vents on the sides. I am a sucker for an all-leather interior too. I don't care for frozen anything colors of paint. I like shiny cars.

I can possibly be persuaded to like the all-digital dashboards as I am sure they will be standard soon, but I hate, hate, hate the tach that revs up counterclockwise, like the current Aston Martins. It feels like you would have to re-train yourself to read it, although I am sure the HUD will show it or at least have shift lights.

garz747 · 08-23-2017, 05:29 PM

Bulbous and overstyled! Not feeling it-looks like Im keeping my BSM z4m Coupe LOL

kaybat · 08-23-2017, 07:19 PM

that thing looks like it'll way about 3600lbs.
the brand clearly is not serious about this platform(sucks)
take a cue from mazda:lighter is better

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krusty Second Lieutenant 23 Rep 291 Posts Drives: Z4 coupé Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	New 2018 Z4 - official concept pics BMW has released official concept pics of the 2018 Z4 (and 8 series). The proposed Z4 concept sadly does not do it for me: there is nothing about it that says Z4 to me. The long front bonnet is gone, the seating position has moved forward (just like any other car), it looks very American muscle car to me (rather than European classy), and the whole car has become far too big. The only things I like are: * the new front grille (but that's really a copy of Mercedes A class) * the integration of the LCD display Not sure if this design misfortune makes me happy or sad: on the one hand, it is disappointing not to see something more satisfying under that badge name we all love; and on the other hand, makes me happy to have my E86 Z4 coupe which I think is becoming more and more of a classic with time. Articles at: https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/17/...re-aggressive/ http://www.leftlanenews.com/photos/b...picture-4.html
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Huz-Z Brigadier General 848 Rep 4,057 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0si, 328 XDrive, X5 35i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I really like it and the press so far has been highly positive with some saying that all other roadsters look dull by comparison. A while back the survival of the Z4 was in doubt and now we have a return to a canvas top performance car. I think it will be a big success but let's give it a chance.
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racerbruce Brigadier General 3852 Rep 3,004 Posts Drives: 21 X3 & 13 335is E93 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	The only missing items are Batman and Robin....the beloved Z4 looking better by the day. __________________ Racerbruce
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Andyh1 Second Lieutenant 115 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M black saphire / imola Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Houston Tx iTrader: (2)	It's not completely doing it for me. The front end just looks too Infiniti / Lexus. Waiting to see more of it in the near future.
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wdb dances with roads 4718 Rep 4,094 Posts Drives: '07 E86, '02 996, '95 Seven Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: the perimeter iTrader: (4)	I wonder how they hope to compete against Jaguar and Mercedes with a turbo 4 when those cars have at least V6 and at most V8 and V12 motivation -- and the attendant sounds. It's a better looking car than I expected but I have reservations about its chances for success.
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JonM Lieutenant 145 Rep 409 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Sedan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (4)	I think there are a lot of little details to like on the concept car. It would be great if the production car didn't need door handles. And, if they would get away with the tiny side mirrors. The windshield frame looks WAY too small for rollover purposes. I don't think any of those will make the production car. I do like the look in general and I like the roll hoops/cowlings. The wheels look nice, so do the air curtain vents on the sides. I am a sucker for an all-leather interior too. I don't care for frozen anything colors of paint. I like shiny cars. I can possibly be persuaded to like the all-digital dashboards as I am sure they will be standard soon, but I hate, hate, hate the tach that revs up counterclockwise, like the current Aston Martins. It feels like you would have to re-train yourself to read it, although I am sure the HUD will show it or at least have shift lights. __________________ Jon Maddux coupenut.blogspot.com x5nut.blogspot.com 16 X5d \| 08 M3 Sedan \| 06 M Coupe \| 01 M coupe \| 99 M coupe
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