Tuneless header CEL fix for ///Ms.

O-cha · 05-17-2010, 09:01 AM

I'm going to put 500 miles out there as the for sure amount.

It depends a lot on how you drive, more idling and cruising rack up more cat monitoring time then lots off acceleration.

mousitch · 05-18-2010, 10:29 PM

You nailed it. Right at about 450 miles the "SES" light popped on. Ill get to Autozone after work tomorrow and hopefully get them to read the code(s).

O-cha · 05-19-2010, 09:43 AM

Yup, just let me know, if they are the ones I think I'll send you something out to try and correct it ASAP, otherwise we'll just trouble shoot what else it might be.

shitbrownMcoupe · 05-22-2010, 02:48 AM

I'm going to install super sprint step headers, race cats, x pipe and race mufflers.

Blind32 · 05-22-2010, 08:10 AM

I recommend you don't install those until you get your engine issue worked out so they can't try and pin the check engine lights, weird noises, etc.. on you. Headers WILL void the warranty.

mousitch · 05-22-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blind32

I recommend you don't install those until you get your engine issue worked out so they can't try and pin the check engine lights, weird noises, etc.. on you. Headers WILL void the warranty.

+1

DarkstarZero · 05-25-2010, 08:59 AM

After the fix, I'm still getting the same SES codes

at least it's a code that doesn't affect performance or mileage.

O-cha · 05-25-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkstarZero

After the fix, I'm still getting the same SES codes

at least it's a code that doesn't affect performance or mileage.

Yea they aren't for sale till this is worked out. It's a code that was on my car but I thought was related to something else and really shouldn't be related and is very infrequent on mine.

shitbrownMcoupe · 05-26-2010, 01:45 AM

for sure, I'm gonna get the car all fixed up for a while and make sure everything's fine and dandy before I install everything

Matty C · 05-26-2010, 02:15 AM

O-cha, thanks in advance. Looking forward to seeing how the sim works.

Blind32 · 06-11-2010, 08:11 AM

Any update on getting the kinks out of this issue? Very interested in 02 sims.

O-cha · 06-11-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blind32

Any update on getting the kinks out of this issue? Very interested in 02 sims.

Been waiting on a part. Adding to the insult is that I still haven't gotten it to come back up so it's damn near impossible for me to know for sure if it'll help.

In the meantime I offered anyone with the issue a refund if they desire.

Blind32 · 06-11-2010, 03:11 PM

Good luck getting it working, headers ARE in my future and I'll be grabbing one of these from you.

O-cha · 06-11-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind32

Good luck getting it working, headers ARE in my future and I'll be grabbing one of these from you.

I wouldn't say it doesn't work, it works, they are running correctly without an ultra rich condition and such, just the ses light is on for another reason they doesn't effect anything. It's unacceptable, but wouldn't say it doesn't work.

Starscream · 06-13-2010, 11:55 AM

The SES light is related to your sim?

If so do you know how to rectify it for future purchases?
Headers still on my to-do list

O-cha · 06-13-2010, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream

The SES light is related to your sim?

If so do you know how to rectify it for future purchases?
Headers still on my to-do list

It is, but at the same time is unrelated, I'm working on making it go away.

Jbs · 07-19-2010, 05:25 PM

O-cha, any updates on this? I'm very interested!

I have gathered that, as of now, your sim makes the car run like it is supposed to with the headers, but it still has an SES light. Thank you for offering an alternative to a $1000 tune!

DarkstarZero · 07-19-2010, 10:38 PM

His shop is sending me a new sim, once I have it I'll be putting a bunch of miles on it in no time. I'll let you know how it goes.

kav · 07-20-2010, 12:10 AM

For those who want to relocate their O2 sensors, it does work. It is an option to this.
So far no more CEL. More than 5000 miles since the relocation.
Key is not to cut your o2 wires, just unfold them.

inTgr8r · 07-20-2010, 06:52 AM

^glad to hear it's working for you.

mousitch · 07-20-2010, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kav

For those who want to relocate their O2 sensors, it does work. It is an option to this.
So far no more CEL. More than 5000 miles since the relocation.
Key is not to cut your o2 wires, just unfold them.

So in theory one could plugged the secondary 02 bungs on the headers and then relocate to the sec cats? I know this doesnt apply to your equipment since you have euro cats. I think I have mine straightened out but may have to go this route, Just because of SES light. Car seems to be running well.

inTgr8r · 07-20-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mousitch

So in theory one could plugged the secondary 02 bungs on the headers and then relocate to the sec cats? I know this doesnt apply to your equipment since you have euro cats. I think I have mine straightened out but may have to go this route, Just because of SES light. Car seems to be running well.

Unless I missed something recent;
Kav welded bungs into his exhaust pipes after the sec cats (N.Amer)

05-17-2010, 09:01 AM	#45
O-cha Brigadier General 218 Rep 4,726 Posts Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you iTrader: (2)	I'm going to put 500 miles out there as the for sure amount. It depends a lot on how you drive, more idling and cruising rack up more cat monitoring time then lots off acceleration. __________________
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05-18-2010, 10:29 PM	#46
mousitch Dark Sider 129 Rep 1,779 Posts Drives: 2008 Space Gray Z4MC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri iTrader: (11) Garage List 2008 Z4M Coupe [7.50]	You nailed it. Right at about 450 miles the "SES" light popped on. Ill get to Autozone after work tomorrow and hopefully get them to read the code(s). __________________ [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/071jt.jpg/] 2008 Space Grey M Coupe-Euro headers-RPI Scoop-Gruppe M CAI-Eisenmann Race Cans-RE X-pipe-ECU Remap with O2 and EGT delete-H&R Sport springs-Zeck CDV delete-Stock Gloss black powder coated wheels-LED Tekarbon Angel Eyes Project-Michelin Super Sports-Hardwired Uniden R7-H&R front and rear spacers-Alarm module added-stereo amp recoded to vert spec settings
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05-19-2010, 09:43 AM	#47
O-cha Brigadier General 218 Rep 4,726 Posts Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you iTrader: (2)	Yup, just let me know, if they are the ones I think I'll send you something out to try and correct it ASAP, otherwise we'll just trouble shoot what else it might be. __________________
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05-22-2010, 02:48 AM	#48
shitbrownMcoupe Lieutenant 41 Rep 543 Posts Drives: 2006 z4 M coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I'm going to install super sprint step headers, race cats, x pipe and race mufflers.
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05-22-2010, 08:10 AM	#49
Blind32 Certified Adrenaline Junkie 43 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (2)	I recommend you don't install those until you get your engine issue worked out so they can't try and pin the check engine lights, weird noises, etc.. on you. Headers WILL void the warranty.
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05-25-2010, 08:59 AM	#51
DarkstarZero Lieutenant Colonel 1014 Rep 1,721 Posts Drives: Daytona 95 M3, X7 M50, e92 M3, Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (6)	After the fix, I'm still getting the same SES codes at least it's a code that doesn't affect performance or mileage. __________________ BMW CCA Track Instructor Join to win a M School Day at the Performance Center! Enter Referral ID: 420186
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05-26-2010, 01:45 AM	#53
shitbrownMcoupe Lieutenant 41 Rep 543 Posts Drives: 2006 z4 M coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	for sure, I'm gonna get the car all fixed up for a while and make sure everything's fine and dandy before I install everything
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05-26-2010, 02:15 AM	#54
Matty C First Lieutenant 20 Rep 324 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M Roadster, 2006 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bodensee iTrader: (0)	O-cha, thanks in advance. Looking forward to seeing how the sim works. __________________ 2007 Black Sapphire Z4 //M Roadster, Hamann Front End, Hamann Rear Diffuser, Hamann 19 Inch Anniversary Wheels, Eisenmann Race Exhaust, Group M Intake, RPI Ram Air, CDV Delete 2006 E46 M3, 2004 Jeep Rubicon, 93 Golf VR6
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06-11-2010, 08:11 AM	#55
Blind32 Certified Adrenaline Junkie 43 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (2)	Any update on getting the kinks out of this issue? Very interested in 02 sims.
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06-11-2010, 03:11 PM	#57
Blind32 Certified Adrenaline Junkie 43 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (2)	Good luck getting it working, headers ARE in my future and I'll be grabbing one of these from you.
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06-13-2010, 11:55 AM	#59
Starscream Colonel 135 Rep 2,120 Posts Drives: ///M Roadster + E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Park Ridge NJ + Windermere FL iTrader: (23)	The SES light is related to your sim? If so do you know how to rectify it for future purchases? Headers still on my to-do list __________________ Imola Red Roadster
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07-19-2010, 05:25 PM	#61
Jbs The Photographer 76 Rep 628 Posts Drives: 07 Z4MC BSM/Black extended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	O-cha, any updates on this? I'm very interested! I have gathered that, as of now, your sim makes the car run like it is supposed to with the headers, but it still has an SES light. Thank you for offering an alternative to a $1000 tune! __________________ John Batte Photography / Flickr / Facebook 2007 ///M Coupe BSM/Black Extended/Loaded \| RPi GT Exhaust w/custom gloss black tips \| KW V3 \| Michelin PSS 245/265 \| Pinnacle F1 Tint 35% \| ZHP Shift Knob
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07-19-2010, 10:38 PM	#62
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07-20-2010, 12:10 AM	#63
kav Lieutenant 49 Rep 401 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	For those who want to relocate their O2 sensors, it does work. It is an option to this. So far no more CEL. More than 5000 miles since the relocation. Key is not to cut your o2 wires, just unfold them.
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07-20-2010, 06:52 AM	#64
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