Feeler: ESS VT2-500 Supercharged 2007 Z4 M Coupe

iPhoneEngineer · 02-09-2012, 11:59 AM

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Hey all,

I've gone to the dark side: a new 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S sits in my garage beside the Z4MC. The most sensible thing to do is to sell the M even though I'm pretty sentimentally attached to it, but the deciding factor will be market interest and the price it can fetch.

The car is nicely modded as some on the forum already know. I can't go into complete detail here, but the vitals are:

- Less than 44k miles; only 4k on the supercharger kit itself. S/C oil has been changed, and I change the engine oil and filter more often than the BMW requirement.
- ESS VT2-500 Supercharger Kit--"stage 2", including large and extremely effective intercooler and new oil cooler. Rated 500HP. Cost over $12,000 to have professionally installed.
- High-tech digital gauge system integrated behind the rear-view mirror glass. Invisible with the car off, seen as an overlay on the image in the mirror when the car is running. Air/Fuel ratio and Boost gauges are present on the left and right, as is a GPS-assisted Radar/Laser/Red Light Camera detector. Over $3,500 to purchase and install. I am going to miss this on the Turbo S! This is a really unique feature, but I don't have photos right now (check out radar-mirror.com). Auto-dimming retained.
- Extended maintenance warranty AND Certified Pre-Owned warranty extending through March 2013. Verified coverage still applies with S/C kit installed, except engine warranty. They will do the full Inspection II including valve adjustments for free. Next full set of brakes + rotors included; oil changes too.
- BMW OEM Euro headers. improves performance beyond the standard kit, and produces a stunning exhaust note. Carefully installed personally (an entire day's work). Over $1,000 in parts.
- Full set of expanded-width Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires with plenty of tread left. 245 front, 265 rear.
- Brand new BMW OEM windshield with less than 2k miles on it (original cracked due to a falling acorn--not kidding!).
- Tinted windows (20-30% sides, 50% rear)
- Miscellaneous replacements (e.g. got the most out of the original warranty): new shift knob, various interior trim replaced when buying the car CPO, multivex mirrors included (not yet installed).

There are a few isolated cosmetic damages; the previous owner scuffed the front right of the bumper on a curb, but it is now better-protected by metal RPi skid plates I installed on the bottom "fangs" of the bumper. The interior is in great condition overall, especially the leather throughout, except for some scratches on the driver's side door sill. I clean and condition the leather myself regularly, and keep the car clean overall.

As of now I'm in Southern California (San Diego County), but moving back to Northern California around February 20th (Silicon Valley). For those who know this car but just want to see the Turbo S, here's a gallery.

These are probably the best post-S/C kit photos I have at the moment, but bear in mind the car had just been driven from NorCal to SoCal (dirty wheels).
The intercooler is an awesome visual addition!

ZStig · 02-09-2012, 12:00 PM

911turbo.. not a bad replacement

iPhoneEngineer · 02-09-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

911turbo.. not a bad replacement

Yeah...celebration of a new job at Facebook, actually. While it's tough to beat a new car (esp. one near 200k w/ tax!), there are still a number of things I prefer about the M. The sound of the S54 is far better, and while it may sound silly to mention, the feel of the turn signal stalk is also a lot better. So are the HVAC controls--BMW has much better developed tactile feel. I also have to say that the steering wheel in the M remains the best I've ever felt, though the Turbo S is the runner-up (also a pretty hefty rim).

The performance of the Turbo S is pretty extreme, and of course very fun, but a less engaging drive. It's so fast that it is easy to /accidentally/ blow past any semblance of a speed limit with a couple second acceleration demo for a buddy. And I haven't even been playing with Sport or Sport Plus mode.

Nonetheless the VT2-500 M is lighter and especially competitive from a roll where traction is not as big of an issue. Additionally, my impression remains that the Z4M community is much tighter-knit than the 911 guys, and that's something I'd really miss if the car goes.

Beedub · 02-09-2012, 12:46 PM

arhhh man im going to miss one of my FI brothers :-(

the turbo s is gorgeous and obviously your working really hard, all the best and genuinely wish you and your family well, good luck and well done on the new job...... :-)

now someone, bump for a friggin sick way to jump into supercar performance, some slight minor cosmetics on this thing and you'll have a real nice car :-)

gferil · 02-09-2012, 12:58 PM

Congrats but sad to see the car go! Glad I was able to see it in action during the dyno day, really sweet setup!

johanness · 02-09-2012, 01:22 PM

Good god, what a replacement. One of my fav cars. Congrats on the new job and enjoy your sub 3-second ride. Nuts!

txz4 · 02-09-2012, 01:56 PM

will you throw in some of that fb stock with purchase? i keed.

Bump for an amazing car!

mfanatic325 · 02-09-2012, 05:20 PM

OMFG...Congratulations Scott! On the job AND on the car

I've seen and driven this car in person. It is pristine and like-new. Bump for a legit seller and nice guy

BIMMERGUY91 · 02-09-2012, 06:06 PM

Yeah ill buy the car if you give me some facebook stock lmao. Youre about to be very rich my friend. Nice car btw although i cant blame you for replacing it with a brand new 911 turbo.

Finnegan · 02-09-2012, 06:09 PM

Nice replacement, and GLWS!

marinb · 02-09-2012, 06:26 PM

Excellent Buy! Good luck selling the M, there aren't many VT2-500 M's... will make some buyer a very lucky guy.

ZStig · 02-09-2012, 07:41 PM

whats the asking price, I don't see it. I'm blind

crfine88 · 02-10-2012, 12:07 PM

Wow, beautiful replacement!

good luck with you sale

CloudyLP640 · 02-10-2012, 07:39 PM

can you send me price and complete infos at pelletierhd at gmail.com.

BTW, I just registered on Zpost to send this message.

iPhoneEngineer · 02-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the well-wishes, all! It's entirely possible I will keep the M if it turns out that the "influx" of M's coming off lease (though a small number) have enough of an impact on the market price that it's not worth selling. I have realized switching between each car just how different they really feel. While the sheer torque kick of the Turbo S is simply stunning, the throttle response of the supercharged S54 is in a totally different and superior class. Unlike comparing the Turbo S to most cars, it's far from disappointing to drive the M again since it has so many unique benefits.

I searched around the 'net and literally could not find a single supercharged M Coupe to compare price with, so I'm not sure where to set my asking price. I've put at least $20k into it in ways that are materially useful to the new buyer (S/C + headers, gauges + radar, extended maint + CPO, LoJack Early Warning, BSW stereo, camber plates + tires), and combined with it being a "loaded" configuration (navigation / DSP, heated seats), I'm expecting about 50% of what I put into it above a totally stock car.

Coming down to numbers, I'll probably keep it if I can't get at least $40k. Thus the feeler question. My Craigslist ad currently has it at $42k. Input is appreciated on this since there really is no directly similar market comparison.

I'll edit the original post when I get a chance with some of the other details about the car as soon as I get a chance, and some newer photos of the VT2-500 kit / digital gauges.

ZStig · 02-12-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iPhoneEngineer

Thanks for the well-wishes, all! It's entirely possible I will keep the M if it turns out that the "influx" of M's coming off lease (though a small number) have enough of an impact on the market price that it's not worth selling. I have realized switching between each car just how different they really feel. While the sheer torque kick of the Turbo S is simply stunning, the throttle response of the supercharged S54 is in a totally different and superior class. Unlike comparing the Turbo S to most cars, it's far from disappointing to drive the M again since it has so many unique benefits.

I searched around the 'net and literally could not find a single supercharged M Coupe to compare price with, so I'm not sure where to set my asking price. I've put at least $20k into it in ways that are materially useful to the new buyer (S/C + headers, gauges + radar, extended maint + CPO, LoJack Early Warning, BSW stereo, camber plates + tires), and combined with it being a "loaded" configuration (navigation / DSP, heated seats), I'm expecting about 50% of what I put into it above a totally stock car.

Coming down to numbers, I'll probably keep it if I can't get at least $40k. Thus the feeler question. My Craigslist ad currently has it at $42k. Input is appreciated on this since there really is no directly similar market comparison.

I'll edit the original post when I get a chance with some of the other details about the car as soon as I get a chance, and some newer photos of the VT2-500 kit / digital gauges.

Good man

CloudyLP640 · 02-12-2012, 09:26 PM

There is one for sale in Nova Scotia, with the VT-445 kit. Same milleage, same color. With wheels etc...

Its been sold for 39.

You are ballpark.

seank · 02-13-2012, 12:03 AM

California smog legal?

SCHMOUPE · 02-13-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EquipoiseExotic

There is one for sale in Nova Scotia, with the VT-445 kit. Same milleage, same color. With wheels etc...

Its been sold for 39.

You are ballpark.

got a link?

zBone · 02-13-2012, 10:16 AM

I'm a cheap SOB and I think that $42 is definitely ballpark for this monster. GLWS, and enjoy the new car!

bdn3d · 02-14-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iPhoneEngineer

Thanks for the well-wishes, all! It's entirely possible I will keep the M if it turns out that the "influx" of M's coming off lease (though a small number) have enough of an impact on the market price that it's not worth selling. I have realized switching between each car just how different they really feel. While the sheer torque kick of the Turbo S is simply stunning, the throttle response of the supercharged S54 is in a totally different and superior class. Unlike comparing the Turbo S to most cars, it's far from disappointing to drive the M again since it has so many unique benefits.

I searched around the 'net and literally could not find a single supercharged M Coupe to compare price with, so I'm not sure where to set my asking price. I've put at least $20k into it in ways that are materially useful to the new buyer (S/C + headers, gauges + radar, extended maint + CPO, LoJack Early Warning, BSW stereo, camber plates + tires), and combined with it being a "loaded" configuration (navigation / DSP, heated seats), I'm expecting about 50% of what I put into it above a totally stock car.

Coming down to numbers, I'll probably keep it if I can't get at least $40k. Thus the feeler question. My Craigslist ad currently has it at $42k. Input is appreciated on this since there really is no directly similar market comparison.

I'll edit the original post when I get a chance with some of the other details about the car as soon as I get a chance, and some newer photos of the VT2-500 kit / digital gauges.

First I would like to say congrats on the new Job, having a gig like that and an M coupe probably makes you one of the rarest people in the world

. Many of us would kill to be in your shoes. On the other hand, don't forget your roots. Very easy to kick the M to the curb when you have the ability to go buy a new 911. From the looks of it your M has been your baby, and although you may want to sell it, I have a feeling you will regret it in the long run. Our cars are rare, and one day I have a feeling they will be big collectors items, something you will see in Barret Jackson 2040+ Its for that very reason that I say keep it! I have a friend who sold his 1992 fully built 600hp 300zx and we all still miss that car. The Supra's, RX7's, and a the inline 6 M cars of the world will be the Cudas, Shelby's, etc...of our generation.

My 2 cents...

Finnegan · 02-14-2012, 01:53 PM

+1 to bdn3d's comments. I can understand selling it, but heck, if the new 911 Turbo doesn't make it seem shabby, and well, it even has some pluses, I'd keep it. Obviously your choice, and the 911 Turbo is a hell of a car. It's cool either way.

BTW, the comparo you've made between the 2 underscores what Beedub has been saying for some time: S/C'ing a Z4M put the car into pretty rare territory.

42K seems very reasonable, maybe even a bit low, for all the other customization and pluses that have gone into the car outside of the kit itself.

02-09-2012, 11:59 AM	#1
iPhoneEngineer Lieutenant 43 Rep 476 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: La Honda, CA iTrader: (2)	Feeler: ESS VT2-500 Supercharged 2007 Z4 M Coupe BIMMERPOST / Classifieds Asking Price: None Item Interest Hey all, I've gone to the dark side: a new 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S sits in my garage beside the Z4MC. The most sensible thing to do is to sell the M even though I'm pretty sentimentally attached to it, but the deciding factor will be market interest and the price it can fetch. The car is nicely modded as some on the forum already know. I can't go into complete detail here, but the vitals are: - Less than 44k miles; only 4k on the supercharger kit itself. S/C oil has been changed, and I change the engine oil and filter more often than the BMW requirement. - ESS VT2-500 Supercharger Kit--"stage 2", including large and extremely effective intercooler and new oil cooler. Rated 500HP. Cost over $12,000 to have professionally installed. - High-tech digital gauge system integrated behind the rear-view mirror glass. Invisible with the car off, seen as an overlay on the image in the mirror when the car is running. Air/Fuel ratio and Boost gauges are present on the left and right, as is a GPS-assisted Radar/Laser/Red Light Camera detector. Over $3,500 to purchase and install. I am going to miss this on the Turbo S! This is a really unique feature, but I don't have photos right now (check out radar-mirror.com). Auto-dimming retained. - Extended maintenance warranty AND Certified Pre-Owned warranty extending through March 2013. Verified coverage still applies with S/C kit installed, except engine warranty. They will do the full Inspection II including valve adjustments for free. Next full set of brakes + rotors included; oil changes too. - BMW OEM Euro headers. improves performance beyond the standard kit, and produces a stunning exhaust note. Carefully installed personally (an entire day's work). Over $1,000 in parts. - Full set of expanded-width Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires with plenty of tread left. 245 front, 265 rear. - Brand new BMW OEM windshield with less than 2k miles on it (original cracked due to a falling acorn--not kidding!). - Tinted windows (20-30% sides, 50% rear) - Miscellaneous replacements (e.g. got the most out of the original warranty): new shift knob, various interior trim replaced when buying the car CPO, multivex mirrors included (not yet installed). There are a few isolated cosmetic damages; the previous owner scuffed the front right of the bumper on a curb, but it is now better-protected by metal RPi skid plates I installed on the bottom "fangs" of the bumper. The interior is in great condition overall, especially the leather throughout, except for some scratches on the driver's side door sill. I clean and condition the leather myself regularly, and keep the car clean overall. As of now I'm in Southern California (San Diego County), but moving back to Northern California around February 20th (Silicon Valley). For those who know this car but just want to see the Turbo S, here's a gallery. These are probably the best post-S/C kit photos I have at the moment, but bear in mind the car had just been driven from NorCal to SoCal (dirty wheels). The intercooler is an awesome visual addition! Last edited by iPhoneEngineer; 02-09-2012 at 12:07 PM..
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,328 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	arhhh man im going to miss one of my FI brothers :-( the turbo s is gorgeous and obviously your working really hard, all the best and genuinely wish you and your family well, good luck and well done on the new job...... :-) now someone, bump for a friggin sick way to jump into supercar performance, some slight minor cosmetics on this thing and you'll have a real nice car :-) __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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02-09-2012, 12:58 PM	#5
gferil Captain 30 Rep 740 Posts Drives: 06 Z4MC Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (6)	Congrats but sad to see the car go! Glad I was able to see it in action during the dyno day, really sweet setup!
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02-09-2012, 01:22 PM	#6
johanness Banned 56 Rep 1,739 Posts Drives: 2008 Z4MC Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, Vancouver iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW Z4M COUPE [7.00] 2012 BMW X1 xDrive 28i [9.00]	Good god, what a replacement. One of my fav cars. Congrats on the new job and enjoy your sub 3-second ride. Nuts!
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02-09-2012, 01:56 PM	#7
txz4 Major 59 Rep 1,097 Posts Drives: 2006 M coupe Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: san antonio, texas iTrader: (3)	will you throw in some of that fb stock with purchase? i keed. Bump for an amazing car!
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02-09-2012, 05:20 PM	#8
mfanatic325 ///M-fanatic 193 Rep 3,885 Posts Drives: '01 911 Turbo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cupertino, CA. iTrader: (23)	OMFG...Congratulations Scott! On the job AND on the car I've seen and driven this car in person. It is pristine and like-new. Bump for a legit seller and nice guy Last edited by mfanatic325; 02-09-2012 at 05:27 PM..
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02-09-2012, 06:06 PM	#9
BIMMERGUY91 Captain 113 Rep 855 Posts Drives: 2014 335I M Sport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL iTrader: (2)	Yeah ill buy the car if you give me some facebook stock lmao. Youre about to be very rich my friend. Nice car btw although i cant blame you for replacing it with a brand new 911 turbo. __________________ 2014 335i M Sport 2010 328i M Sport 2007 Z4MC #1019/1815 (Sold) 1997 M3 (Sold) 1991 325i
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02-09-2012, 06:09 PM	#10
Finnegan Dog Listener 701 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	Nice replacement, and GLWS!
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02-09-2012, 06:26 PM	#11
marinb First Lieutenant 19 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2017 911 GTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NorCal iTrader: (4)	Excellent Buy! Good luck selling the M, there aren't many VT2-500 M's... will make some buyer a very lucky guy.
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02-09-2012, 07:41 PM	#12
ZStig instagram 997turbotom 279 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4MR Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Delray Beach, FL iTrader: (4)	whats the asking price, I don't see it. I'm blind __________________
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02-10-2012, 12:07 PM	#13
crfine88 Colonel 441 Rep 2,747 Posts Drives: E86M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cave Creek AZ. iTrader: (19)	Wow, beautiful replacement! good luck with you sale __________________ LINK TO 07 IR PHOTO JOURNAL:http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1303735 LINK TO 06 IB MOD JOURNAL:http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403119
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02-10-2012, 07:39 PM	#14
CloudyLP640 Lieutenant 30 Rep 536 Posts Drives: RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gatineau iTrader: (2)	can you send me price and complete infos at pelletierhd at gmail.com. BTW, I just registered on Zpost to send this message.
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02-12-2012, 07:59 PM	#15
iPhoneEngineer Lieutenant 43 Rep 476 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: La Honda, CA iTrader: (2)	Thanks for the well-wishes, all! It's entirely possible I will keep the M if it turns out that the "influx" of M's coming off lease (though a small number) have enough of an impact on the market price that it's not worth selling. I have realized switching between each car just how different they really feel. While the sheer torque kick of the Turbo S is simply stunning, the throttle response of the supercharged S54 is in a totally different and superior class. Unlike comparing the Turbo S to most cars, it's far from disappointing to drive the M again since it has so many unique benefits. I searched around the 'net and literally could not find a single supercharged M Coupe to compare price with, so I'm not sure where to set my asking price. I've put at least $20k into it in ways that are materially useful to the new buyer (S/C + headers, gauges + radar, extended maint + CPO, LoJack Early Warning, BSW stereo, camber plates + tires), and combined with it being a "loaded" configuration (navigation / DSP, heated seats), I'm expecting about 50% of what I put into it above a totally stock car. Coming down to numbers, I'll probably keep it if I can't get at least $40k. Thus the feeler question. My Craigslist ad currently has it at $42k. Input is appreciated on this since there really is no directly similar market comparison. I'll edit the original post when I get a chance with some of the other details about the car as soon as I get a chance, and some newer photos of the VT2-500 kit / digital gauges.
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02-12-2012, 09:26 PM	#17
CloudyLP640 Lieutenant 30 Rep 536 Posts Drives: RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gatineau iTrader: (2)	There is one for sale in Nova Scotia, with the VT-445 kit. Same milleage, same color. With wheels etc... Its been sold for 39. You are ballpark.
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02-13-2012, 12:03 AM	#18
seank enthusiast 48 Rep 1,695 Posts Drives: e30 m3,e90 wagon,sprinter,z4m Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: sacramento, ca iTrader: (4)	California smog legal?
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02-13-2012, 10:16 AM	#20
zBone Megatron 5 Rep 207 Posts Drives: 2007 IB Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH iTrader: (0)	I'm a cheap SOB and I think that $42 is definitely ballpark for this monster. GLWS, and enjoy the new car!
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02-14-2012, 01:53 PM	#22
Finnegan Dog Listener 701 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	+1 to bdn3d's comments. I can understand selling it, but heck, if the new 911 Turbo doesn't make it seem shabby, and well, it even has some pluses, I'd keep it. Obviously your choice, and the 911 Turbo is a hell of a car. It's cool either way. BTW, the comparo you've made between the 2 underscores what Beedub has been saying for some time: S/C'ing a Z4M put the car into pretty rare territory. 42K seems very reasonable, maybe even a bit low, for all the other customization and pluses that have gone into the car outside of the kit itself.
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