Rogue Engineering "Race Brace"

zubydafa · 05-24-2012, 02:09 PM

mehhh. the price is still listed at 375 but it's not valid anymore. i called in and asked them to let me know when they have more available and at what price they'll sell normally.

:/ should've gotten in earlier.

Finnegan · 07-03-2012, 05:10 PM

Talked to Rogue today. Units are expected in next week, another week for powder-coating, so a couple weeks away from the shipping date.

pyo · 07-06-2012, 06:54 PM

Stoked like a little school girl =)

pyo · 07-31-2012, 04:59 PM

i think i received my tracking #

Finnegan · 07-31-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pyo

i think i received my tracking #

Me too!

fiberguy · 07-31-2012, 09:40 PM

I got the shipping notice as well.

Now - I need some opinions.

At 26K miles, I'm due for a valve adjustment in the next few weeks. I'm planning to hold off on brace installation until after the adjustment, because it appears that it would interfere to some degree with the service.

Any ideas?

zubydafa · 07-31-2012, 10:03 PM

i'm gonna call them tomorrow to see if there will be another GB or if i can just get one for a little more :/

mhughett · 08-01-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zubydafa

i'm gonna call them tomorrow to see if there will be another GB or if i can just get one for a little more :/

I just checked their website and it shows that the current price on the Z4 racebrace is $395--$20 more than the first group buy price. This must be the new price.

pyo · 08-03-2012, 07:15 AM

look what UPS dropped off yesterday evening

pyo · 08-09-2012, 08:07 PM

Anyone having fitment issues? I can only get one side to fit.

Finnegan · 08-09-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pyo

Anyone having fitment issues? I can only get one side to fit.

Crap. I won't have a chance to test until this weekend.

Pyo, can you take some quick pics so we can see the issue?

fiberguy · 08-09-2012, 09:07 PM

It took several hours of careful filing and Dremel tool work on both sides to get the brace to fit. I checked to make sure that everything was absolutely level during the installation. I figured that it was a combination of manufacturing tolerances of both the car and the brace.

Juice84 · 08-09-2012, 10:14 PM

Did you have the car up on jacks to remove stress off the front suspension? I know on other cars I have had when installing a front brace it normally helps.

pyo · 08-09-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Finnegan

Crap. I won't have a chance to test until this weekend.

Pyo, can you take some quick pics so we can see the issue?

already put everything back in, with the exception of one of the strut tower bolts dropping down and not tightening up. Need to take off the wheel and hold with pliers to get it fastened. I'll try again this weekend and take pics this time. Overall, when one side fit, the other side needed to be pulled and twisted to get the bolts to line up with the hole.

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Originally Posted by fiberguy

It took several hours of careful filing and Dremel tool work on both sides to get the brace to fit. I checked to make sure that everything was absolutely level during the installation. I figured that it was a combination of manufacturing tolerances of both the car and the brace.

Would really like to avoid doing this since I do not have a dremel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juice84

Did you have the car up on jacks to remove stress off the front suspension? I know on other cars I have had when installing a front brace it normally helps.

No, per the instructions provided from RE it stated the car needed to be on a level surface, which I did.

There was another fanatic during the install that had an E46 M3 and he stated his RE race brace installed with no problems; straight bolt on.

We even tried to jack up one side at a time to get it to fit but no dice.

pyo · 08-10-2012, 07:16 AM

Here are pics from yesterday to visually check the fitment (did not undo nuts)

I have been talking with member "pal" through pm and he had issues with fitment also but was able to install. pal had to lift the car up, lower the studs, place the race brace into position, and lowered the car to get the studs/struts to line up. the studs were all the way inside on his install with this method. alignment was lost through this method.

looks like i'll have to get a shop to install the brace since an alignment is needed afterwards.

fiberguy · 08-10-2012, 11:44 AM

PYO,

Your photos show the same problem that I had. It wasn't just the studs that didn't line up, but the camber placement pin as well. I tried jacking the car on one side, then the other to see if that had an impact. As far as I could tell, jacking the car did nothing to improve the problem.

One thing that I noted was that the studs were very close to being centered in the slots on both sides. If they had been positioned all the way toward the center of the car, the brace would have come much closer to fitting. However, the camber placement pins and the firewall brace mounting would still have been a problem.

Dremel tool is not a necessity, just a round file and a ton of patience!

Beedub · 08-10-2012, 01:11 PM

am i being an ass here but...... you guys have paid for an item... its not a cheap item and let be honest, fitment is off..... yet your having to mod this piece to fit your car.... Fuck that...... send this mofo back and get Re to re manufacture these parts or mod them in house and repaint them..... imo that's unacceptable. its not even alittle bit off..... its quite some way out.

pyo · 08-10-2012, 01:44 PM

I completely agree with you beedub. What was the point of having a member go through prototype test fitment only to have the final product not fit without modifications. Why does the E46 Race Brace fit without modifications but ours require it? This is supposed to be a simple bolt modification.

Ron Stygar · 08-10-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pyo

Why does the E46 Race Brace fit without modifications but ours require it?

The E46-M3 brace doesn't fit the Z4M. The cross piece connection is at a different angle.

pyo · 08-11-2012, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Stygar

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyo

Why does the E46 Race Brace fit without modifications but ours require it?

The E46-M3 brace doesn't fit the Z4M. The cross piece connection is at a different angle.

I was trying to state that the E46 owners do not have to mod their race brace for install. During my install, there was an e46 m3 owner with an re race brace on his car.

Ron Stygar · 08-11-2012, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyo

I was trying to state that the E46 owners do not have to mod their race brace for install. During my install, there was an e46 m3 owner with an re race brace on his car.

OK

3002 tii · 08-11-2012, 08:27 AM

oe bar ftw...

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zubydafa tosser 31 Rep 988 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Allentown, PA iTrader: (0)	mehhh. the price is still listed at 375 but it's not valid anymore. i called in and asked them to let me know when they have more available and at what price they'll sell normally. :/ should've gotten in earlier. __________________ '07 MCoupe lots of mods
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Finnegan Dog Listener 703 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	Talked to Rogue today. Units are expected in next week, another week for powder-coating, so a couple weeks away from the shipping date.
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07-31-2012, 09:40 PM	#116
fiberguy New Member 5 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M Imola Roadster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	I got the shipping notice as well. Now - I need some opinions. At 26K miles, I'm due for a valve adjustment in the next few weeks. I'm planning to hold off on brace installation until after the adjustment, because it appears that it would interfere to some degree with the service. Any ideas?
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zubydafa tosser 31 Rep 988 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Allentown, PA iTrader: (0)	i'm gonna call them tomorrow to see if there will be another GB or if i can just get one for a little more :/ __________________ '07 MCoupe lots of mods
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pyo Lieutenant 551 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 2022 X3MC Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2022 BMW X3M Compet ... [7.13]	look what UPS dropped off yesterday evening __________________ '00 328i // Sold '04 Z4 3.0i // Sold '22 X3MC LCI
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pyo Lieutenant 551 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 2022 X3MC Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2022 BMW X3M Compet ... [7.13]	Anyone having fitment issues? I can only get one side to fit. __________________ '00 328i // Sold '04 Z4 3.0i // Sold '22 X3MC LCI
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08-09-2012, 09:07 PM	#122
fiberguy New Member 5 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M Imola Roadster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	It took several hours of careful filing and Dremel tool work on both sides to get the brace to fit. I checked to make sure that everything was absolutely level during the installation. I figured that it was a combination of manufacturing tolerances of both the car and the brace.
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08-09-2012, 10:14 PM	#123
Juice84 Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 238 Posts Drives: '03 2.5i Z4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	Did you have the car up on jacks to remove stress off the front suspension? I know on other cars I have had when installing a front brace it normally helps.
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pyo Lieutenant 551 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 2022 X3MC Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2022 BMW X3M Compet ... [7.13]	Here are pics from yesterday to visually check the fitment (did not undo nuts) I have been talking with member "pal" through pm and he had issues with fitment also but was able to install. pal had to lift the car up, lower the studs, place the race brace into position, and lowered the car to get the studs/struts to line up. the studs were all the way inside on his install with this method. alignment was lost through this method. looks like i'll have to get a shop to install the brace since an alignment is needed afterwards. __________________ '00 328i // Sold '04 Z4 3.0i // Sold '22 X3MC LCI
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08-10-2012, 11:44 AM	#126
fiberguy New Member 5 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M Imola Roadster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	PYO, Your photos show the same problem that I had. It wasn't just the studs that didn't line up, but the camber placement pin as well. I tried jacking the car on one side, then the other to see if that had an impact. As far as I could tell, jacking the car did nothing to improve the problem. One thing that I noted was that the studs were very close to being centered in the slots on both sides. If they had been positioned all the way toward the center of the car, the brace would have come much closer to fitting. However, the camber placement pins and the firewall brace mounting would still have been a problem. Dremel tool is not a necessity, just a round file and a ton of patience!
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08-10-2012, 01:11 PM	#127
Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,328 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	am i being an ass here but...... you guys have paid for an item... its not a cheap item and let be honest, fitment is off..... yet your having to mod this piece to fit your car.... Fuck that...... send this mofo back and get Re to re manufacture these parts or mod them in house and repaint them..... imo that's unacceptable. its not even alittle bit off..... its quite some way out. __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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