DIS and SSS/Progman are Dead. Hail the new King

StickMon · 09-06-2014, 10:47 PM

I've done it with DIS and it freaks me out.
After what you said, not sure I want to try it with Rheingold...

bignosejim · 09-07-2014, 04:41 AM

I pretty sure that only happened because of my ancient gateway laptop I use for car work. Just don't take any screenshots and it will be fine. I'm curious if I can send and receive information from other modules. I was able to call up the DME and look at individual points (coolant temp, battery voltages, etc). Just curious as to why it would say my vanos was not moving during the test.

imported_mega · 09-07-2014, 04:47 PM

registration shut off on that other site, anyplace mirroring the install archive?

JonM · 09-23-2014, 06:43 AM

Can anyone point to a link where I can download this software? I see guys are selling it on ebay.

inTgr8r · 02-28-2016, 04:11 PM

Anyone using Rheingold ISTA-P (programming software)

Curious how it compares to NCS Expert.

Also, anyone heard of Rheingold USA?
Came across them looking for Rheingold info.
They try to give the look and feel of an official reseller, but looks a little fishy to me .

Shipkiller · 02-28-2016, 08:33 PM

Rheingold is the official BMW software now...

I have Rheingold-P but I have not used it.

I have a feeling that for real fine grain control of changing the software, you still need NCS Expert.

Varinn · 02-29-2016, 12:52 AM

What sort of cables are needed to make this work? Im curious if the obd2-usb I have for my Superduke would work or not. I'd love it if all I had to do was download the software and get the round plug adapter to work woth both the e30 s52 and the Z4

Vanne · 02-29-2016, 01:27 AM

Any idea where you can grab this from? uncle torrent, PB, only shows an older version from 2014..

#cough#

inTgr8r · 02-29-2016, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shipkiller

Rheingold is the official BMW software now...

I have Rheingold-P but I have not used it.

I have a feeling that for real fine grain control of changing the software, you still need NCS Expert.

I found another source that has used -P and he agrees.
NCS Exp. is still the way to go for programming.

Quote:

ISTA/P is slow and awkward to use, the best thing to do is learn how to use NCS expert, that will do far more of the fancy coding that ISTA won't do, and it skips a lot of the programming.

I'd avoid trying to reprogram anything unless you have a specific reason to, and even then, use winKFP to do it.
ISTA/P will automatically draw out a measures plan which means updating every module on the car at the same time, it might take a long time and start asking for the optical MOST connection.

All the fun coding stuff tends to be done through NCS expert and it is far more flexible.

Beedub · 02-29-2016, 02:21 PM

interesting to see this come up as my bccables software has just froze up.... doesnt communicate with the car just transmission errors...

Yet a week before i used it to code in my DTC, its just stopped working ?? using windows Vista on an old sony machine.

i can get it to run any tests let alone freeze during the middle of one :-( I'm trying to learn the software but i simply cant as it seems quite unreliable for me...

this is what I'm using...

http://www.bcables.com

inTgr8r · 03-02-2016, 01:40 PM

Are you using the Same USB port ?

Beedub · 03-02-2016, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Are you using the Same USB port ?

I've been using different ones on that particular p.c ... wasn't aware this would/could cause an issue???

didn't even consider it tbh... hell i cant even remember which one i used on the install of the software....

inTgr8r · 03-03-2016, 01:40 PM

Try changing until you get one that works, then mark it so as to "remember"

09-06-2014, 10:47 PM	#23
StickMon My other car is on Mars 636 Rep 3,124 Posts Drives: 2006 MR Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lo-Cal iTrader: (1)	I've done it with DIS and it freaks me out. After what you said, not sure I want to try it with Rheingold... __________________ Warning: May contain traces of nuts.
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bignosejim Lieutenant 40 Rep 400 Posts Drives: 2007 IB M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	I pretty sure that only happened because of my ancient gateway laptop I use for car work. Just don't take any screenshots and it will be fine. I'm curious if I can send and receive information from other modules. I was able to call up the DME and look at individual points (coolant temp, battery voltages, etc). Just curious as to why it would say my vanos was not moving during the test. __________________ /// Vibra-Technics motor mounts /// Autosolutions SSK /// RE Tranny mounts /// Aero Turbine Exhaust /// Beisan Vanos upgrades /// SDW rtabs /// Fortune Auto 500
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imported_mega Colonel 122 Rep 2,199 Posts Drives: various bmw's Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: neverland iTrader: (0)	registration shut off on that other site, anyplace mirroring the install archive? __________________ You only need two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape. Driving e82, e72, e85, R53 Gone but not forgotten.. 1974 2002, many various 3s.
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02-28-2016, 04:11 PM	#27
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2426 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Anyone using Rheingold ISTA-P (programming software) Curious how it compares to NCS Expert. Also, anyone heard of Rheingold USA? Came across them looking for Rheingold info. They try to give the look and feel of an official reseller, but looks a little fishy to me . __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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Shipkiller Colonel 187 Rep 2,138 Posts Drives: Me Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW Z4M Coupe [8.50] 2003 BMW Z4 Roadster [8.33]	Rheingold is the official BMW software now... I have Rheingold-P but I have not used it. I have a feeling that for real fine grain control of changing the software, you still need NCS Expert.
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02-29-2016, 12:52 AM	#29
Varinn Private First Class 57 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada iTrader: (0)	What sort of cables are needed to make this work? Im curious if the obd2-usb I have for my Superduke would work or not. I'd love it if all I had to do was download the software and get the round plug adapter to work woth both the e30 s52 and the Z4
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02-29-2016, 01:27 AM	#30
Vanne Down Under!! 1621 Rep 4,294 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dubai iTrader: (4)	Any idea where you can grab this from? uncle torrent, PB, only shows an older version from 2014.. #cough#
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02-29-2016, 02:21 PM	#32
Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,327 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	interesting to see this come up as my bccables software has just froze up.... doesnt communicate with the car just transmission errors... Yet a week before i used it to code in my DTC, its just stopped working ?? using windows Vista on an old sony machine. i can get it to run any tests let alone freeze during the middle of one :-( I'm trying to learn the software but i simply cant as it seems quite unreliable for me... this is what I'm using... http://www.bcables.com __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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03-02-2016, 01:40 PM	#33
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2426 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Are you using the Same USB port ? __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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03-03-2016, 01:40 PM	#35
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2426 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Try changing until you get one that works, then mark it so as to "remember" __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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