why is SS more expenisive than csl?

shitbrownMcoupe · 12-28-2010, 01:11 PM

it's rom Italy.

Caddyshk · 12-28-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shitbrownMcoupe

it's FRoma Italy.

Quality and expensive or just expensive

VinnieAces · 12-28-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by esqu1re

Canada is in North America. They're "American."

Boom, Roasted.

3002 tii · 12-28-2010, 02:50 PM

I agree, part for part any reputable aftermarket part (ie no eBay mods or made in Taiwan products) will be more expensive than it's counterpart and csl is still technically oem. And not to mention these guys are looking to make a profit from after the car sale is made whereas most oem products are not unless it's a wear n tear item (so there's a natural markup on these brands).

Shipkiller · 12-28-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

^+1
reminds me of a certain someone on another forum.

He is still on that forum, but now he is stationed over in England. Closer to better beer....

F360C · 12-28-2010, 06:31 PM

Personally I think SS quality is no better then BMW. I would put BMW quality at par with SS if not better

Diokaef · 12-28-2010, 09:13 PM

BMW has better quality, the process used to make the CSL headers is way more expensive as well, the collectors are superior from all angles, CSL headers are even better then AA headers for sure, I had opportunity of check the quality of each one and I can stand behind of my opinion, I don't see any real reason to have a higher markup price besides of to make more profit, in fact between AA, CSL, EURO and SS, SS has the lowest quality and similar design overall.

1- CSL
2- AA (only because of the design and not because the manufactory process)
3- Euro (because manufactory process)
4- SS ( similar design to euro headers, low quality manufactory process)

I did not see the stepped version of the SS so I can't talk about that one.

gatorfast · 12-29-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VinnieAces

Boom, Roasted.

Andy, you're gayer than Oscar! Boom, roasted.

Caddyshk · 12-29-2010, 11:24 AM

Who's Oscar?

inTgr8r · 12-29-2010, 01:11 PM

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Who's Oscar?

Caddyshk · 12-29-2010, 01:19 PM

Shipkiller · 12-29-2010, 02:03 PM

That's the "Jack Wagon"...........

azadian2b · 12-29-2010, 03:10 PM

It's an Office reference.

Caddyshk · 12-29-2010, 04:06 PM

Office? What is this Office you reference? I've seen Office Space

mfanatic325 · 12-29-2010, 05:02 PM

This Oscar (on the right) from the TV show called "The Office"

mousitch · 12-29-2010, 05:28 PM

Creed your teeth called,your breath stinks. Boom, roasted.

Caddyshk · 12-29-2010, 06:37 PM

Wasn't that a British show first? I heard the NA version sucked?

mousitch · 12-29-2010, 06:40 PM

Actually the NA version rocks especially seasons 1-4. Im a Office junkie. Its almost as addictive as the mods on my car. LOL

Caddyshk · 12-29-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mousitch

Actually the NA version rocks especially seasons 1-4. Im a Office junkie. Its almost as addictive as the mods on my car. LOL

You should get the DVDs from the real version - I hear it's far better; could just be European Elitism however...?

Eccentric · 12-30-2010, 12:37 AM

interesting about the header comparison.. and Carell's Office is fantastic. Not better or worse than the original, but different.

ZStig · 12-30-2010, 10:12 AM

don't like the original Office

esqu1re · 12-30-2010, 10:59 AM

I think it depends on which ones you watch first; I'm sure there will be kids in the future that will find the british top gear odd and unappealing because they're weened on TG USA.

12-28-2010, 01:11 PM	#23
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12-28-2010, 06:31 PM	#28
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12-28-2010, 09:13 PM	#29
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12-29-2010, 11:24 AM	#31
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12-29-2010, 02:03 PM	#34
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12-29-2010, 03:10 PM	#35
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12-29-2010, 04:06 PM	#36
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12-29-2010, 06:37 PM	#39
Caddyshk M = Midlife Crisis 65 Rep 2,006 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4MC Interlagos Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (0)	Wasn't that a British show first? I heard the NA version sucked? __________________ 2006 Z4MC - #LL93158 SS Race Cans, RE X Pipe, DKF Sec 1, Fabspeed Headers, OE STB, AS Shifter, Dave Z CDV, GC Coil Overs, Stoptech lines, Hawk DTC Pads, RE Clutch Stop, RE Transmission Mounts, Vibra-Technics Engine Mounts, Poly FCAB & RTAB, LeatherZ M Shift Boot, Tekarbon Rear Spoiler, CF Grills, Advan RS DGM
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12-30-2010, 12:37 AM	#42
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12-30-2010, 10:59 AM	#44
esqu1re Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,855 Posts Drives: M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	I think it depends on which ones you watch first; I'm sure there will be kids in the future that will find the british top gear odd and unappealing because they're weened on TG USA. __________________ ///M Coupe: RPI Scoop, OE Strut, CDV, Volk RE30, SS Brake Lines, Stromung Exhaust
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