Rarity of our Cars- Idea

[Ron Stygar]

Originally Posted by drbvac

I have one if roughly 40 Imola red 2006 M coupes EVER built so whether they were not able to sell them or not the fact that there are only 40 and they aint making any more makes it "rare" by any standard in automobile manufacturing statistics. Even now 40 is not many and as much as I love the car if I take care of it and keep it for another 20 years you won't see many more of them running around!

Are you saying that there are only 40 Imola red of the 4,275 M Coupes made?
If so, your not even close.

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by JCz04Bimmer

Wow. I'm number 42. Didn't realize it was such an early build!

Actually you have number 10. The first 32 ViN are assigned to press car and cars that are production spec but never sold to the general public. Avoid the first 32 VIN like the PLAGUE because they're used and abused like a village whore by the press fleet. I've seen some of these guys drive and it's not a pretty sight.

I've got the 306th VIN but technically the 274th "customer" car.

[Ron Stygar]

Originally Posted by The HACK

Actually you have number 10. The first 32 ViN are assigned to press car and cars that are production spec but never sold to the general public. Avoid the first 32 VIN like the PLAGUE because they're used and abused like a village whore by the press fleet. I've seen some of these guys drive and it's not a pretty sight.

I've got the 306th VIN but technically the 274th "customer" car.

Some of the 32 are sold.

[Tonybest]

I think he meant never originally sold to the public... sold as second hand or maybe CPO... or demos...

[rc'Z]

Originally Posted by drbvac

I have one if roughly 40 Imola red 2006 M coupes EVER built so whether they were not able to sell them or not the fact that there are only 40 and they aint making any more makes it "rare" by any standard in automobile manufacturing statistics. Even now 40 is not many and as much as I love the car if I take care of it and keep it for another 20 years you won't see many more of them running around!

4500 on earth isn't many either for total production when you compare - a car that has great records - Corvette - there were over 22,000 1967 corvettes produced, over 6000 1957,

Between 1984 and 89 NIssan produced nearly 300,000 - 300 ZX in the US!

So keep your cars and as rare as they are now - wait 20 years!

Dream on, they will never be worth what the old Corvette's are.

[drbvac]

Thats what they said 30 years ago about the chevelles and road runners that were all over the place.

What I did say was in 2006 the total production of M coupes was 380 and in the last 5 years 10% of cars sold are red, so for the coupes = around 40 cars. I traded an 06 Z06 in on the M and it is a nicer car to drive and handles better. For muscle hard to beat 435 hp and it sounds like a harley with 4 wheels - just the same - theres 10,000 of them! I'll keep the M and I bet in 10 years its worth more than the vette would be.

All that said, I'd keep it regardless and surely didnt buy it as an investment - still - should have kept the 1968 stingray I had - who knew!

[izzy]

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/

[drbvac]

Originally Posted by Ron Stygar

Are you saying that there are only 40 Imola red of the 4,275 M Coupes made?
If so, your not even close.

380 2006 M coupes, 10% of cars are red = roughly 40

[Ron Stygar]

Originally Posted by drbvac

380 2006 M coupes, 10% of cars are red = roughly 40

Which is only the NA 2006 M Coupes.
Your about 40% off.

[drbvac]

Originally Posted by Ron Stygar

Which is only the NA 2006 M Coupes.
Your about 40% off.

On a like thread re: numbers

From Spartanburg:

"!JD_FeedbackBMW" <FeedbackBMW@jdsouth.com>

RE: Comments received from BMWUSFactory.com

Lifetime production of the Z4 M Coupe at BMW Manufacturing was about
4,500 vehicles.

Thank you for your interest in BMW Manufacturing Co.

and

Z4 M Production, 2006-2008
Coupes, Worldwide: 4,275, North America: 1,815.
Roadsters, Worldwide: 5,070, North America: 3,042
Source - BMW Car magazine, Nov. 2008 issue, pp 9.

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M_Coupe

* 2006 North America Production beginning with Vin# 6LLxx000: 380 built from 05/2006 through 09/2006
* 2007 North America Production beginning with Vin# 7LLxx380: 1187 built from 10/2006 through 09/2007
* 2008 North America Production beginning with Vin# 8LMxx567: 248 built from 10/2007 through 09/2008

North American Production cause thats where they built them all!


So - 4275 M coupes 06-08, worldwide - 380 06 M coupes - 40 imola red

[Ron Stygar]

Originally Posted by drbvac

On a like thread re: numbers

From Spartanburg:

"!JD_FeedbackBMW" <FeedbackBMW@jdsouth.com>

RE: Comments received from BMWUSFactory.com

Lifetime production of the Z4 M Coupe at BMW Manufacturing was about
4,500 vehicles.

Thank you for your interest in BMW Manufacturing Co.

and

Z4 M Production, 2006-2008
Coupes, Worldwide: 4,275, North America: 1,815.
Roadsters, Worldwide: 5,070, North America: 3,042
Source - BMW Car magazine, Nov. 2008 issue, pp 9.

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M_Coupe

* 2006 North America Production beginning with Vin# 6LLxx000: 380 built from 05/2006 through 09/2006
* 2007 North America Production beginning with Vin# 7LLxx380: 1187 built from 10/2006 through 09/2007
* 2008 North America Production beginning with Vin# 8LMxx567: 248 built from 10/2007 through 09/2008

North American Production cause thats where they built them all!


So - 4275 M coupes 06-08, worldwide - 380 06 M coupes - 40 imola red

Most of the numbers you posted come from here.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=23

The vin numbers there are the M Coupes that went to Canada and the United States (1815). Euro M Coupes vin numbers are not part of it.

[rc'Z]

Granted the cars are rare in numbers. But being rare and being collectable are not necessarly the same thing. Most of the Road Runers, Challangers, Z-28, et al were popular at the time, and a lot of folks wanted them. The folks buying them now are the one's that had them back then or wanted to have one back then. The price is up there because of popularity and now rare. Our cars aren't particularly popular, and face it most people that buy BMW's don't buy them for the driving experienice that we buy them for, the buy them to "be seen in".

[epbrown]

I agree. Estimating that there are only 430 or so Imola Red M Coupes is interesting trivia (and for the most part, guesswork), but that's about it. And as far as rarity, I'm betting Sepang Bronze would beat it. in the US. Overseas where Individual colors were available, it's a whole different ball game. Fun to discuss, though.

[kav]

LL93380

Which makes mine:
1/1807 for 2007
or
381/2,187 total production (wait I don't think includes 2008?)

[drbvac]

Originally Posted by epbrown

I agree. Estimating that there are only 430 or so Imola Red M Coupes is interesting trivia (and for the most part, guesswork), but that's about it. And as far as rarity, I'm betting Sepang Bronze would beat it. in the US. Overseas where Individual colors were available, it's a whole different ball game. Fun to discuss, though.

And fun to explain to people, even at BMW dealers, who have never seen one what it is! As I said I never bought anything in my life to "collect" and surely not cars - but - it is nice to be a little different and a great car on top.

License Plate EVRC1B4

[scottyD]

nice license plate, drbvac. very clever.

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by scottyD

nice license plate, drbvac. very clever.

Ditto - I wish it would work in IL, ut we can't mix numbers and letters. Maybe just EVR C 1...

[SSG S]

LT20729 is mine... what number does that make me? Its an 03 and all i know is production date was jan of 03... :/

[wildag]

Here's the answer to all questions above:

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthre...roduction+info

Contains a CSV (excel) file of all Z4M cars ever made, with colors and options.

[DarkstarZero]

My gf is an engraver. If you guys are still interested in this I could get her to make a sample on Monday.

[JB 007]

What about the european builts?

[b0bab0i]

Z4M's aren't rare, at least not in California.