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01-29-2018, 03:42 PM | #23 |
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I'm not really sure why this news is just making its way around. KIA has been carving at the BMW/Audi market share since they released the redesigned Optima SX turbo back in 2012/2013. I owned a mildly modified one for 6 months before ditching it for an E90 335i.
The (2013) Optima SX turbo was nice, and the interior quality was more than adequate. It made a lot of unsuspecting heads turn, which is quite the opposite experience for when I made the switch to an E90 335i. However, having come from a tuner background, I was extremely disappointed with the lack of ECU tuning options for the KIA platform. It's not as bad compared to a modern day Toyota/Lexus, but definitely nowhere near the tunability of other FI platforms like Nissan, Subaru, Audi/VW, and BMW. The cipher they used to encrypt the ECU is damn near impossible to crack, or simply not worth spending any resources on. I definitely wouldn't mind getting another KIA sports sedan, but I would have to be willing to commit to keeping the car as close to stock as possible given the lack of tuning options. I expect the Stinger to be no different, and this will be the biggest drawback for those who haven't been exposed to KIA "performance". |
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01-31-2018, 09:39 PM | #24 |
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I like the Stinger. I think the tiger nose grill will translate well in future Kia products. (Although I think it does slightly resemble BMW’s kidney grill). I prefer the Genesis version, though. Too much design fuckery on the stinger that stands out to me.
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02-01-2018, 12:03 AM | #25 |
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Was designed by the guy who used to design for Audi.
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02-01-2018, 08:18 AM | #27 |
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02-01-2018, 08:31 AM | #29 |
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Wow, this car looks beautiful. I like the design a lot. I remember many years ago when Kia first got off the ground--people were buying 2 of them because they were so cheap. I have to give it to Kia, very nicely done. Hopefully, in the next 10 years they really step it up and bring something nice for the new gen.
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Name a car that gives as much for 50k that the Stinger GT does.
There's not any car I can think of with ~350 HP and RWD that can give you EVERY single option that you can get on a high tier BMW for that price. You get things like HUD, Lane assist, distance cruise control, top view cameras, etc etc. |
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Kia & Hyundai have been loading up their cars with options for years because the rest of the car sucks. Poor build quality. Maybe I'm biased as I bought a 2010 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track brand new & it was the biggest POS I've ever had. Gave them another try when beater shopping last year. Checked out a new Elantra & it was also a poorly built shitbox. Last edited by Never_Enough; 02-01-2018 at 10:05 AM.. |
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If it had BMW or Audi badges, would it get the same glowing reviews? Methinks not. This is a feel good underdog story. But a Kia is a Kia.
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02-03-2018, 05:41 AM | #39 |
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Nothing worse than a badge snob. These brands can only go up. Now I'm not saying I'll buy right now but to say never because it's a Kia is just silly.
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