question for those who lowered track car tie rod end

[AriuSen]

hey, so i wanted to lower my car a little more, but I'm concern of the tie rod end.
do you guys have spacer to make it oem position?
any tie rod end aftermarket I could buy?

Thank you

[AriuSen]

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[Barryb97]

I'm lowered on TC Kline coil overs. I did not have to make any changes to the tie rod ends but I did have to change out the sway bar end links. If I recall I got them from Turner.

[The HACK]

I don't have this installed, but this is probably what you're looking for.

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...tion.php/II=12

[AriuSen]

Originally Posted by The HACK

I don't have this installed, but this is probably what you're looking for.

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...tion.php/II=12

awesome! I'm guessing the e36 one will fit in our cars?

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by AriuSen

awesome! I'm guessing the e36 one will fit in our cars?

No you'll need to get the E46 one based on this DB:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=32106774221

I would call GC and confirm. But the ETK seems to suggest that the tie-rod ends on the Z4 is the same as the E46.

I suspect, even though the rack is based on an E36 design, the lower control arm is E46 while the knuckle is E36. So the longer (I assume) E46 control arm dictates the longer E46 tie-rod.

Just a wild guess though. Sorry, like I said, I'm not lowered enough to require tie-rod spacers.

[AriuSen]

Originally Posted by The HACK

No you'll need to get the E46 one based on this DB:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=32106774221

I would call GC and confirm. But the ETK seems to suggest that the tie-rod ends on the Z4 is the same as the E46.

I suspect, even though the rack is based on an E36 design, the lower control arm is E46 while the knuckle is E36. So the longer (I assume) E46 control arm dictates the longer E46 tie-rod.

Just a wild guess though. Sorry, like I said, I'm not lowered enough to require tie-rod spacers.

what would this forum be without you! thx

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by AriuSen

what would this forum be without you! thx

A lot friendlier that's for sure.

[Finnegan]

Originally Posted by The HACK

A lot friendlier that's for sure.

And much less informative.

[AriuSen]

just bought the kit from GC. they said its a little shorter than the e46 one.

[AriuSen]

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[86Zed]

How low are you going? I know my friend running a Z4MC track car runs these GC pieces and modified/custom control arms to get full suspension travel and correct alignment. He is both lowered 2-3" and running 18x10.5 square

[AriuSen]

Originally Posted by 86Zed

How low are you going? I know my friend running a Z4MC track car runs these GC pieces and modified/custom control arms to get full suspension travel and correct alignment. He is both lowered 2-3" and running 18x10.5 square

I?m not sure how low. Will discuss with my alignment shop. But I need to lower more to try to maximize my downforce. Can you post a pic of your friends track car? Is it the one with aeromotions with that runs NASA ?

[86Zed]

Originally Posted by AriuSen

Can you post a pic of your friends track car? Is it the one with aeromotions with that runs NASA ?

Great guy - no doubt he would be happy to discuss his setup in detail if prodded. Can connect you two.

[The HACK]

Hey I know that guy, he’s at most of the CCA CRs and a few NASA ones as well.

[AriuSen]

Originally Posted by 86Zed

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Great guy - no doubt he would be happy to discuss his setup in detail if prodded. Can connect you two.

I imagined it was him haha.
I met him at acs and buttonwillow and we had a great talk. He asked me to be his pit crew for the night endurance race but I had to leave early. Great person for sure!

[AriuSen]

I would like some help here to install this since gc doesn?t send a installation guide.
Do I need to have suspension loaded when installing it? Or I just measure the length of the Oem rod and do the same?

Also the gc rod comes with a lot of spacer sizes.
How do I know which spacer I should use to keep same geometry?
My car as of now is almost stock height, I think
Thanks!

[The HACK]

The TIS does not specify installing/tightening while under load. See attached PDF.

32 21 3AZ is 65Nm and TIS recommend replacing the nut.
32 21 5AZ is 45Nm.

You don't need the special tool, you'll need a ball joint separator (looks like a giant tuning fork) and a dead blow hammer to separate the tie-rod. Haven't had to do it for the tie-rod but have done it for the control arm on an E46. Pretty straight forward. As for the spacers, I think you set the car to desired ride height, and measure the angle at which the tie-rod is in relation to horizontal. If the knuckle end is higher than the rack end at rest, the distance between horizontal and angle at rest at the knuckle is the amount of spacer you need to add?