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      04-03-2011, 10:13 PM   #23
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If you look closely at the 1 series and watch the Cialis commercial you will realize they both have something in common. The 1 looks like the bath tub in the commercial. Take the top off and it's just a bath tub on wheels.

Nothing cooler than a Z3, Z4 Z8 roadster or coupe! Even the GT2 Porsche freaked when he realized I was behind him today. That look on his face, OMG its a "M"!

But seriously, who the frog cares, they bought their 1 and they got to live with that bad decision. I get to drive around in a M roadster and I have a smile on my face.

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Oh and one other thing...."M" roadsters come with a secret bat mobile button. The '1''s will never get one of those.
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sounds to me you guys have your own bias' for you Z4M's. Not really fair to knock 1 owners for loving their car and feeling its superior if you're going to turn around and make the same argument for your car. whether its true or not, its should be said that whether you drive a scion or a bentley if you like your car you'll find a way to make it "better" than what the next guy is driving. It was more expensive, it was less expensive, its faster, its more economical, its better designed, its more comfortable, ect...

love what you drive, respect other cars - especially of the same brand and don't be a douche. This isn't saying 1 owners picking fights aren't being jackasses. anyone who brings that crap up arrogantly is insecure and a moron. However, don't act like people in your clan don't think having an M badge makes them superior either... this is a two way street.
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SRS if those 135s didn't have SS brake lines, turbotimers, and camcorders you'll stomp their asses but watch out if they have more mods in their sig than you do because they will put up a fight
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I'LL SEE YOU AT RACEWARS BRO!
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you know you want every part of my crotch there for you to over...
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sounds to me you guys have your own bias' for you Z4M's. Not really fair to knock 1 owners for loving their car and feeling its superior if you're going to turn around and make the same argument for your car. whether its true or not, its should be said that whether you drive a scion or a bentley if you like your car you'll find a way to make it "better" than what the next guy is driving. It was more expensive, it was less expensive, its faster, its more economical, its better designed, its more comfortable, ect...

love what you drive, respect other cars - especially of the same brand and don't be a douche. This isn't saying 1 owners picking fights aren't being jackasses. anyone who brings that crap up arrogantly is insecure and a moron. However, don't act like people in your clan don't think having an M badge makes them superior either... this is a two way street.
You're obviously one of those ricers who lives your life 10 seconds at a time...when you feel like turning right in addition to left, LMK. The tuna was crappy yesterday, was crappy the day before that, and guess what? Hasn't changed
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There is a lot of pro 1 talk over there.

Every e46m3 vs 135 thread ends up getting shut down.

the 135 stock
1. is not faster straight line than a z4m (13.4@105), drivers race maybe, but not faster
2. suspension is dialed to understeer on non sticky run flats, with lots of pitch, dive and roll
3. brakes are solid, as good as M i'd say
4. track limited by temperature, with heat soak on slow courses, and cooking the oil on all of them. I love that i only need regular 5/40 bmw synthetic every 15k and it runs 230 all the time and will get to 260 on the back roads in the summer...

the z4m
1. is rougher over the road
2. is much smaller and less practical while weighing about the same
3. must be wrung out to get the power from it

so all week, sitting in traffic, going from location to location and spending time on the phone, grabbing a bite to eat, etc. the 1 is a much better car for that.

come the weekend and some back roads, and fun time, to feel that connection to the car, to get to wind it out, have steering that has not only tightness but decent road feel (not even this car compares to say an e36), and drive a car that to me has some attitude. that's the z4m.

I know i'm fortunate to be able to own both, and i like both for different reasons.

My 1 is a fair bit faster straight line than the z4m now with mods, but the feeling is all different. There's a huge thread in the 1m section about 1m vs ttrs from car and driver, and everyone is touting how the 1m is better and the winner because it's the package of handling, power, and road feel and drive that is absent in the much faster ttrs. I feel the same way here, even though my 135 may be faster, i "enjoy" driving the z4m more.

Either way you're going to find fans that will defend their car simply because it's their car.
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