TMS Sway Bars

kennyfrc · 11-02-2013, 09:52 AM

I installed the TMS Sway Bar Kit(Front&Rear) that they offer for the E46 M3 this week and not only do the fit our M but, they work great. Body roll is greatly reduced and turn in is much more responsive. I am currently running the medium front setting and soft in the rear. The difference in how the car performs is night and day. My goal was to improve handling characteristics without sacrificing any ride height. I will be adding Bilstein HD shocks soon with my stock springs and will report back on how this effects things. i have advised Turner and they will be updating their website to show these bars work on the Z4MC/R.

FWIW

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-26...y-bar-kit.aspx

inTgr8r · 11-02-2013, 03:15 PM

Yup... Did the same thing, except turner was out of stock & I bought the H&R.
(Turners are made by H&R)
I also did adjustable end links at the same time. (From turner)

I felt they really complimented the KW Clubsports at my last track day.
....using same settings as you.

Krypptic · 11-02-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Yup... Did the same thing, except turner was out of stock & I bought the H&R.
(Turners are made by H&R)
I also did adjustable end links at the same time. (From turner)

I felt they really complimented the KW Clubsports at my last track day.
....using same settings as you.

What's the added benefit of the adjustable links?

Jumbosock · 11-02-2013, 07:06 PM

Are these solid or tubular? Lighter or heavier than OEM?

Kgolf31 · 11-02-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Krypptic

What's the added benefit of the adjustable links?

No pre-load on lowered car.

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Originally Posted by Jumbosock

Are these solid or tubular? Lighter or heavier than OEM?

Considering they are H&R...solid and heavier

Caddyshk · 11-02-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Yup... Did the same thing, except turner was out of stock & I bought the H&R.
(Turners are made by H&R)
I also did adjustable end links at the same time. (From turner)

I felt they really complimented the KW Clubsports at my last track day.
....using same settings as you.

So that was the extra corner speed?

i2ichal2dZ4M · 11-02-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Yup... Did the same thing, except turner was out of stock & I bought the H&R.
(Turners are made by H&R)
I also did adjustable end links at the same time. (From turner)

I felt they really complimented the KW Clubsports at my last track day.
....using same settings as you.

Are the H&R cheaper? we need a groupbuy!

inTgr8r · 11-03-2013, 07:53 AM

Rebranded Turner is cheaper

inTgr8r · 11-03-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Caddyshk

So that was the extra corner speed?

That was the R.M. mod

Caddyshk · 11-03-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

That was the R.M. mod

R.M?

seank · 11-03-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumbosock

Are these solid or tubular? Lighter or heavier than OEM?

If you want lighter and tubular, get the Ground Control swaybar with infinite adjustment. Expensive though. You have to pay to play.

I believe ALL the others are H&R rebranded.

inTgr8r · 11-03-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Caddyshk

R.M?

Rick Morelli

inTgr8r · 11-03-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Krypptic

What's the added benefit of the adjustable links?

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Originally Posted by Kgolf31

No pre-load on lowered car.
.......

^this
Especially when corner balanced, because ride heights are different on all four corners.

Caddyshk · 11-03-2013, 12:46 PM

Ian; do you recommend me getting these?

VMZ432 · 11-11-2013, 02:37 AM

Did you specifically want something stiffer than the 27mm H&R ones normally used for the Z4M? And are you at all worried about this sort of thing? Or fix it if it comes up type attitude?
.

Kgolf31 · 11-11-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VMZ432

Did you specifically want something stiffer than the 27mm H&R ones normally used for the Z4M? And are you at all worried about this sort of thing? Or fix it if it comes up type attitude?
.

Isn't 27mm the original dia. for the front?

VMZ432 · 11-11-2013, 06:47 AM

Yeah, I guess it is. I thought i'd read about people getting the 27mm h&r bars for m's but it must have been only non-m's. Oops.

inTgr8r · 11-11-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VMZ432

Did you specifically want something stiffer than the 27mm H&R ones normally used for the Z4M? And are you at all worried about this sort of thing? Or fix it if it comes up type attitude?
.

There are a couple of threads on a preemptive fix.

zubydafa · 11-11-2013, 09:40 AM

i think i'm in the market for ground control rear sways. i have UGLY slop in the rear at speed.

or i should probably check the rtabs and whatever else is back there before pulling the trigger on sways..

Kgolf31 · 11-11-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zubydafa

i think i'm in the market for ground control rear sways. i have UGLY slop in the rear at speed.

or i should probably check the rtabs and whatever else is back there before pulling the trigger on sways..

You shouldn't need rear sways on a BMW...You'll end up upsetting the rear-end more and making it twitchy

Karacticus · 11-11-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zubydafa

i think i'm in the market for ground control rear sways. i have UGLY slop in the rear at speed.

or i should probably check the rtabs and whatever else is back there before pulling the trigger on sways..

I'd do RTABs first, and then put the RTAB limiters in while you are there.

Made a big difference in my car after 80,000 miles. There was a sort of "twist" at the rear once the car finished rolling on turn entry.

After replacing the RTABs and putting the limiters in, this behavior was gone for for last track weekend at Road America.

seank · 11-11-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zubydafa

i think i'm in the market for ground control rear sways. i have UGLY slop in the rear at speed.

or i should probably check the rtabs and whatever else is back there before pulling the trigger on sways..

I sold mine to Gfour and he is putting the car back to stock. I would hit him up.

11-02-2013, 09:52 AM	#1
kennyfrc First Lieutenant 18 Rep 376 Posts Drives: 2008 Z4MC Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: ATL GA iTrader: (1)	TMS Sway Bars I installed the TMS Sway Bar Kit(Front&Rear) that they offer for the E46 M3 this week and not only do the fit our M but, they work great. Body roll is greatly reduced and turn in is much more responsive. I am currently running the medium front setting and soft in the rear. The difference in how the car performs is night and day. My goal was to improve handling characteristics without sacrificing any ride height. I will be adding Bilstein HD shocks soon with my stock springs and will report back on how this effects things. i have advised Turner and they will be updating their website to show these bars work on the Z4MC/R. FWIW http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-26...y-bar-kit.aspx __________________ Toy: 2008 Silver Z4MC 300WHP/241TQ Mods: OEM Euro Headers, RPI Scoop Daily: 2010 Tacoma Double Cab
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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Yup... Did the same thing, except turner was out of stock & I bought the H&R. (Turners are made by H&R) I also did adjustable end links at the same time. (From turner) I felt they really complimented the KW Clubsports at my last track day. ....using same settings as you. __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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VMZ432 Fast Everything 10 Rep 98 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Did you specifically want something stiffer than the 27mm H&R ones normally used for the Z4M? And are you at all worried about this sort of thing? Or fix it if it comes up type attitude? . __________________ 2006 IBlue BMW Z4 MC - ESS VT2-525 Supercharged, JRZ RS1 suspension (500#F, 600#R) with Vorshlag plates, ST Trophy BBK with CL R6E pads, KKS gated exhaust, TMS sway bars, RE rear camber arms, VT engine mounts, Recaro Pole Position (driver), APR GT wing, Street: Volk G2s and Potenza, Track: Volk TE37SLs and BFG R1s.
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VMZ432 Fast Everything 10 Rep 98 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Yeah, I guess it is. I thought i'd read about people getting the 27mm h&r bars for m's but it must have been only non-m's. Oops. __________________ 2006 IBlue BMW Z4 MC - ESS VT2-525 Supercharged, JRZ RS1 suspension (500#F, 600#R) with Vorshlag plates, ST Trophy BBK with CL R6E pads, KKS gated exhaust, TMS sway bars, RE rear camber arms, VT engine mounts, Recaro Pole Position (driver), APR GT wing, Street: Volk G2s and Potenza, Track: Volk TE37SLs and BFG R1s.
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zubydafa tosser 31 Rep 988 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Allentown, PA iTrader: (0)	i think i'm in the market for ground control rear sways. i have UGLY slop in the rear at speed. or i should probably check the rtabs and whatever else is back there before pulling the trigger on sways.. __________________ '07 MCoupe lots of mods
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