NEW INtake BOX for Z4M and Z4 Project

[Diokaef]

I have being in contact with a few companies to Have a Intake box that will fit in our cars it would look just like the original intake box but with a modified interior to avoid air turbulence and using a high performance filter. see pictures below. part 1 and also filter APEXi

I would like to know how many of you would be interested on it. I had used computer software to simulate the capabilities of the new box and it's very promising.

The cost would be on the range of $530 including filter. and you can use the same hardware from the stock box.

They will be build with the same ABS plastic properties of the OEM box.

Pictures for example only.

[Diokaef]

This is how that Intake Filter sounds and why I want use them. besides it's the best one on the market on my opinion.

[Thisisdudewhoru]

A box intake with a cone filter is not making that car sound like that. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

Also please host a link for the file containing where you ran the flow characteristics of the box you made vs the flow characteristics of the stock box on whatever program, I have most all engineering programs at my disposal. I would like to see how they compare throughout all 8000 rpms.

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by Thisisdudewhoru

A box intake with a cone filter is not making that car sound like that. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

Also please host a link for the file containing where you ran the flow characteristics of the box you made vs the flow characteristics of the stock box on whatever program, I have most all engineering programs at my disposal. I would like to see how they compare throughout all 8000 rpms.

Sorry man, the video is just an Example and I know that you can't make our car sound like that, That car have a totally different characteristics then ours,

I just like the sound.

About the software and how is done the test is my business and I'm not selling anything I'm just asking opinions. also I did not say or promise any performance increase at list yet.

But Thank's for the criticism.

[onebluemcm]

$530 for a stock box with a cone filter inside? You are kidding, right?

And I too am curious about your computer modeling - not sure it's wise to post up talk like that and not be able to provide data or results......

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by onebluemcm

$530 for a stock box with a cone filter inside? You are kidding, right?

And I too am curious about your computer modeling - not sure it's wise to post up talk like that and not be able to provide data or results......

It is not a stock box, is a complete new box with complete different angles but would fit in the same place as the oem box.

and the goal is to increase performance.


Would you post info so the people could use to steal your ideas? it would be like me giving you money. once I'm done I will have this on a Dyno and then you will have the info that you need.


I'm not selling!!!!

Just want to know what people think.

Thank's

[chickdr]

Originally Posted by Diokaef

Sorry man, the video is just an Example and I know that you can't make our car sound like that, That car have a totally different characteristics then ours,

I just like the sound.

The car in the video is a rotary powered RX-7(FD). An M roadster would never sound like a rotary(not that I would want it to anyway). Not sure why you would show that video....

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by chickdr

The car in the video is a rotary powered RX-7(FD). An M roadster would never sound like a rotary(not that I would want it to anyway). Not sure why you would show that video....

if you hear carefully you can hear just the intake filter noise on the background. not the noise from the stupid car

[inTgr8r]

FWIW... in a closed box the sound will likely be more muffled.
The advantage is, that there would be no induction of hot air.

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

FWIW... in a closed box the sound will likely be more muffled.
The advantage is, that there would be no induction of hot air.

Finally someone that understand the concept

[Diokaef]

just so anyone that have not idea what I'm talking about:

Less turbulence on air coming in.
Less heat from engine bay going in.
Less obstruction on the air flow.

just to name a few of the advantages of a well done system.

[Serious]

So basically you're going to copy the stock airbox but replace the panel filter with a cone... and what makes you believe this will have any improvement over the part that multiple BMW engineers designed utilizing the most sophisticated CFD computing outside of nasa?

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by Serious

So basically you're going to copy the stock airbox but replace the panel filter with a cone... and what makes you believe this will have any improvement over the part that multiple BMW engineers designed utilizing the most sophisticated CFD computing outside of nasa?

Copy just the outside of the box. I have not done a real test yet, so I can't guarantee improvement but in same way why do people use AFE and GruppeM intakes?

and this is not a garage project.

Will be designed, made, assembled and tested by different companies I'm only one of the Eng that will work on it.

and my motivation for this is for track use.

[Thisisdudewhoru]

Originally Posted by Diokaef

just so anyone that have not idea what I'm talking about:

Less turbulence on air coming in.
Less heat from engine bay going in.
Less obstruction on the air flow.

just to name a few of the advantages of a well done system.

How is this going to have any less heat than stock box? lol.

Also you said you don't want anyone stealing your idea but yet in the previous post you say you're copying the box and basically shaving the inside. Any one can do that.

[Diokaef]

Go a head and do it, you have complete no understand of what I want to do, I was talking about less heat in comparison with other cold air intake.
The oem is very restrictve because the ripe air filter and if you just remove that and use a cone filter you will have too much turbulance but the protection against heat on the oem box is good, I'm talking about complet redesign of the interior caracteristcs of the box and use it's shape to preserve the oem aperance of it.

[Diokaef]

Fine, I will design one for my car, test and then after good prove of improvement charge 1000$ for it if anyone want. Why do I need to share what I can build and use on my track cars?!? I don't so if you want to contribute with the idea it's great but otherwise understant that I have the money and the way to build just a few of this for me and not sell any.

Apears like you think that I'm selling a product when the only think that I want is to improve our cars and solve the problem of not having any options of decent intake to buy.

[Diokaef]

Originally Posted by Thisisdudewhoru

A box intake with a cone filter is not making that car sound like that. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

Also please host a link for the file containing where you ran the flow characteristics of the box you made vs the flow characteristics of the stock box on whatever program, I have most all engineering programs at my disposal. I would like to see how they compare throughout all 8000 rpms.

Other thing: Do you know whom I'm???

[Thisisdudewhoru]

Originally Posted by Diokaef

Fine, I will design one for my car, test and then after good prove of improvement charge 1000$ for it if anyone want. Why do I need to share what I can build and use on my track cars?!? I don't so if you want to contribute with the idea it's great but otherwise understant that I have the money and the way to build just a few of this for me and not sell any.

Apears like you think that I'm selling a product when the only think that I want is to improve our cars and solve the problem of not having any options of decent intake to buy.

So you're not selling anything here? But yet your title is "New intake for z4m and z4"?

Originally Posted by Diokaef

Other thing: Do you know whom I'm???

Someone who doesn't speak english well? Just kidding.

But in all seriousness, do you know who I am?

[Diokaef]

CLOSED

[mousitch]

[dekaliber]

Shoulda posted in Engine, Exhaust, Drivetrain Modifications section anyway :P

[hansaysso]

while i have to say, some of you are flaming the OP a little too much, especially since his first language isn't english. the intake box design with the cone filter does seem a little lack luster especially at the price your suggesting. I can see the advantages of running a "oem" style box with a filter as it'll keep a lot of the heat soak out, but you should've known from the get go OP that a lot of people would question spending that kind of money on something that may not do much more than oem, both in performance or sound. the alternatives like gruppe or afe at least have proven sound characteristics (although the whole power/heat soak issue is something that i have yet to see completely proven) i think to get anyone really interested you'd have to show diagnostics or at least flow characteristics of this suggested intake over the stock box for anyone to really bite on this. just my .02