Nismo 370Z: Faster than M coupe?

Eccentric · 07-08-2010, 09:14 PM

Hey guys, theres this douche that lives in my town who drives a riced out Nismo 370Z

, and every time we pull up next to each other at a light he wants to race. Now, just to settle my curiosity, do you think a stock Z4 M Coupe could take the 370? Do any of you have any experiences running against 370's?

nesrevival · 07-08-2010, 09:21 PM

i heard it's faster than m coupe

mhughett · 07-08-2010, 09:34 PM

I just saw Motorweek on TV last week and they tested the Nismo. It was about 5.3 seconds to 60, which is significantly slower than the M coupe/roadster. I think the weight combined with the "JHP" specs make the biggest difference. Seems to me like Nissan inflates all of their HP claims as you take one of theirs and a BMW with similar weight and HP ratings and the BMW will always be faster.

mousitch · 07-08-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric

Hey guys, theres this douche that lives in my town who drives a riced out Nismo 370Z

, and every time we pull up next to each other at a light he wants to race. Now, just to settle my curiosity, do you think a stock Z4 M Coupe could take the 370? Do any of you have any experiences running against 370's?

Your probably faster but just race him and let us know.

ShakyDog · 07-08-2010, 09:58 PM

Drove one two days before I decided to buy a 3.0i Z4. It was the only manual 370Z they had out of 5!

If that does not tell you enough, nothing will.

Steve

DarkstarZero · 07-08-2010, 10:09 PM

Your stock M will be faster unless you grind into second

Nate2046 · 07-08-2010, 10:33 PM

YOU have an M Coupe.
+
This 'douche' (your term) has a 370z and always want to race.
=
YOU coming here and asking US which one is faster.

See how that doesn't add up?

crfine88 · 07-08-2010, 10:35 PM

If his is stock, you should be able to take him.

No telling what he has done to the car if it is, "riced out." Could have some serious mods under the hood.

Race him. If he beats you, play to the guys ego and ask him whats under the hood.

Eccentric · 07-08-2010, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate2046

YOU have an M Coupe.
+
This 'douche' (your term) has a 370z and always want to race.
=
YOU coming here and asking US which one is faster.

See how that doesn't add up?

Dont see your logic, Nate.. i dont see anything wrong with curiosity. But yeah lol i have my share of tickets so i wasnt really planning on going for a race anytime soon.

Nate2046 · 07-08-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric

Dont see your logic, Nate.. i dont see anything wrong with curiosity. But yeah lol i have my share of tickets so i wasnt really planning on going for a race anytime soon.

No, you're right, nothing wrong with curiosity. Just busting your chops and pointing out you had the potential to answer your own question in a few seconds. Be safe out there

And yeah, I'm as big a bench racer as anybody, so I've got no room to talk.

xJxDx0926 · 07-09-2010, 12:03 AM

Haha Things can be worse lol.

I have a kid at work who's still convinced his Stock 350Z Roadster is still faster than My Z4M

Eccentric · 07-09-2010, 12:28 AM

hahah Zcar fanboys are fun, aren't they? I'm usually not quick to call someone a douche, but the combination of a Blowout haircut, and sunglasses at night is really self explanatory.. Anyway, thanks for the input guys, though it seems to be a mixed bag of responses. Hopefully i'll get a chance to have a run with the Red Baron (one too many wings) in the future to satisfy my questions.

RBull · 07-09-2010, 06:09 AM

Try it out and let us know the outcome.

Otherwise anything else on here is just air.

Blind32 · 07-09-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkstarZero

Your stock M will be faster unless you grind into second

So true. so true

chickdr · 07-09-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xJxDx0926

Haha Things can be worse lol.

I have a kid at work who's still convinced his Stock 350Z Roadster is still faster than My Z4M

Have you showed him the HP:Weight on both cars? He is 287-306hp(depending on year/model) with about 400 extra pounds. Don't need to understand much about physics to understand his car will be slower.

mhughett · 07-09-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chickdr

Have you showed him the HP:Weight on both cars? He is 287-306hp(depending on year/model) with about 400 extra pounds. Don't need to understand much about physics to understand his car will be slower.

Not necessarily correct. The OP never said what year the Nismo was but if it is a 370z Nismo and not a 350z, the engine has 350 hp. The standard 370z has 333 HP. Still has the weight you mention but the HP is quite a bit higher.

Erhan · 07-09-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chickdr

Have you showed him the HP:Weight on both cars? He is 287-306hp(depending on year/model) with about 400 extra pounds. Don't need to understand much about physics to understand his car will be slower.

Well, to the first order, I guess all you need is hp:weight ratio. But technically transmission (gear ratios), differential (open vs limited slip and final ratio), tires (grip) etc have their roles too. Also, after certain speed aerodynamics will be important too.

03BeastCharmer · 07-09-2010, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eccentric

Hey guys, theres this douche that lives in my town who drives a riced out Nismo 370Z

, and every time we pull up next to each other at a light he wants to race. Now, just to settle my curiosity, do you think a stock Z4 M Coupe could take the 370? Do any of you have any experiences running against 370's?

If he has a Nismo 370 vs 350, I think he will beat you.

The 370 has 332Hp & the Nismo 370 has 350Hp. It's curb weight is 3,300 lbs, so it's not 400 lbs heavier than your car. I have autox against a guy in a regular 370 and in the right hands, that thing is very quick around a course. With the added Hp and super sticky stock tires, I don't think you would win (both drivers being equal).

http://www.nissanusa.com/zcoupe/specifications.html

Hawkeye · 07-09-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate2046

YOU have an M Coupe.
+
This 'douche' (your term) has a 370z and always want to race.
=
YOU coming here and asking US which one is faster.

See how that doesn't add up?

Guy with nice car + A Nothing = Guy with nice car. I think you are either giving the douche too much credit or forgot what equality is.

I think it is perfectly fine to ask. Better than street racing most of the time.

Eccentric · 07-09-2010, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Guy with nice car + A Nothing = Guy with nice car. I think you are either giving the douche too much credit or forgot what equality is.

I think it is perfectly fine to ask. Better than street racing most of the time.

"most of the time" is right haha- also, Ricky Stanzi is a scrub

E82tt6 · 07-09-2010, 01:37 PM

Should be about a driver's race. The two cars have a similar amount of HP, and similar weight.

I believe the gearing in the M is a bit more aggressive, but should be damn near even, I'd think.

schwank · 07-09-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by E82tt6

Should be about a driver's race. The two cars have a similar amount of HP, and similar weight.

I believe the gearing in the M is a bit more aggressive, but should be damn near even, I'd think.

+1
traded punches with one on the track last year.

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mhughett Captain 25 Rep 615 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok iTrader: (0)	I just saw Motorweek on TV last week and they tested the Nismo. It was about 5.3 seconds to 60, which is significantly slower than the M coupe/roadster. I think the weight combined with the "JHP" specs make the biggest difference. Seems to me like Nissan inflates all of their HP claims as you take one of theirs and a BMW with similar weight and HP ratings and the BMW will always be faster. __________________ 2013 Audi TT RS (Tech Pkg, Sport Exhaust, Heated Seats, Sirius) Retired--2007 Z4 M Coupe (Imola Red/Black, Premium Pkg, Heated Seats, XM, Bimmian stubby antenna, CDV delete, Apex EC-7--Anthracite, Goodyear F1 Asymetric 2.
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