Those with Forgestar Wheels .. question

[bhoch]

I am in the process of ordering some Gloss Black Forgestar wheels for my Z4.

When placing the order we discuss the lugs and it looks they they may only come in Silver. For those that have black wheels, how did you get black lugs - did you paint (if so, please tell me what type, brand, etc.. ) that you used. If you were able to source black lugs, please tell me from where. For the Wheels, they need to be coneshaped. - If the stock lugs are good to go already, let me know that as well.


If you are wondering - I'm getting R 18x9.5 and F 18.8.5 wheels. Once I get the wheels and know the offsets I'll post pics and numbers.

BTW.. the folks at **********s were great to work with on this order!

[r4gs]

nice pickup bill! will these be installed come harris hill on march 19th? would love to see how they look in-person.

can't help u on the colored lug nuts question, though it sounds pretty straightforward.

[bhoch]

^^ Hi Matt - Thanks - No, they won't be on in time. Seems there is about a 6 week lag time from order till ship. so, they won't be on till sometime in April.

[ZStig]

let us know if the car feels faster with those light wheels

[Cal@Sonic MS]

Originally Posted by bhoch

I am in the process of ordering some Gloss Black Forgestar wheels for my Z4.

When placing the order we discuss the lugs and it looks they they may only come in Silver. For those that have black wheels, how did you get black lugs - did you paint (if so, please tell me what type, brand, etc.. ) that you used. If you were able to source black lugs, please tell me from where. For the Wheels, they need to be coneshaped. - If the stock lugs are good to go already, let me know that as well.


If you are wondering - I'm getting R 18x9.5 and F 18.8.5 wheels. Once I get the wheels and know the offsets I'll post pics and numbers.

BTW.. the folks at **********s were great to work with on this order!

You can use your original OEM black lugs IIRC.

[ModBargains.com]

Originally Posted by bhoch

I am in the process of ordering some Gloss Black Forgestar wheels for my Z4.

When placing the order we discuss the lugs and it looks they they may only come in Silver. For those that have black wheels, how did you get black lugs - did you paint (if so, please tell me what type, brand, etc.. ) that you used. If you were able to source black lugs, please tell me from where. For the Wheels, they need to be coneshaped. - If the stock lugs are good to go already, let me know that as well.


If you are wondering - I'm getting R 18x9.5 and F 18.8.5 wheels. Once I get the wheels and know the offsets I'll post pics and numbers.

BTW.. the folks at **********s were great to work with on this order!

Thank you again for your order and support. I can't wait to see the end result once all is said and done. The 4-8 week wait is definitely going to be worth it and I know that you're going to be extremely happy with the end result. The Forgestar wheels do require a cone seat lug bolt to fit the wheels specifically. Although, the stock lugs may fit, they're not recommended as the shape of the head of the bolt is different. What this can do overtime is of course scratch and chip the surface area around the bolt circles themselves. As advised over the phone, you can simply go to home depot or any hardware store to purchase high temp spray paint and simply spray a few coats on the new bolts to achieve the black look

[bhoch]

Thanks Alan, Sounds good to me! BTW.. I got your e-mail attachment and have responded. with a pic/attachment.

[bhoch]

Wheels are in They look pretty I should be able to get them mounted on Saturday morning. Once done, I'll get some pics.

Wheels:

Forgstar F14 - Piano Black 8.5x18 ET 26 / 9.5x18 ET 26. Wahooo!!!! Gonna be a long week to wait.

[v3.0si]

Originally Posted by bhoch

Wheels are in They look pretty I should be able to get them mounted on Saturday morning. Once done, I'll get some pics.

Wheels:

Forgstar F14 - Piano Black 8.5x18 ET 26 / 9.5x18 ET 26. Wahooo!!!! Gonna be a long week to wait.

are those offsets correct? 8.5" et36 and 9.5" et46 is very flush for a non-///m. if they are correct, i'm thinking you better have a pretty serious suspension setup to compensate. maybe i missed something?

[bhoch]

I do not know. that is just what is on the box. there was / is no paperwork. I am hoping that Forgestar would not send me wheels that just won't work. I have stock sport suspension - not lowered and I doubt it ever will be.

[v3.0si]

**********s' website for ordering forgestars says that they'll contact the buying party with the correct offsets for your car before the order is made. what did they tell you was correct for the car?

do the wheels themselves have et markings anywhere on them? in the barrel...? back side of one of the spokes...?

hopefully the et specs on the box are a belated april fools joke. 9.5" et26 will be way the hell outside the fender line. as an example...

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506796

StigJ's rear wheels are 10.0" et40 which are 29mm more aggressive (mildly looney) than your stock 108's, vs. a 9.5" et26 @ 37mm more agressive (markedly insane) than your 108's. i'm not even sure if you'd be able to turn your car with 8.5" et26 in front. holy buckets, man.

check your wheels, reciepts, and blood pressure... then tell me it was all a big misunderstanding on my part. pleeeeeeaaaaaase don't be et26.....!

[v3.0si]

Originally Posted by **********s.com

The Forgestar wheels do require a cone seat lug bolt to fit the wheels specifically. Although, the stock lugs may fit, they're not recommended as the shape of the head of the bolt is different. What this can do overtime is of course scratch and chip the surface area around the bolt circles themselves.

the bmw factory lug bolt is conical... is it a different cone shape than the forgestar lug seat? i wasn't aware there was more than one pitch for a conical lug head/seat.

[prodigal_m]

Originally Posted by bhoch

I do not know. that is just what is on the box. there was / is no paperwork. I am hoping that Forgestar would not send me wheels that just won't work. I have stock sport suspension - not lowered and I doubt it ever will be.

Forgestar does not disclose their offsets that I know of. My boxes listed my wheels as:
F: 19X9 ET20
R: 19X10 ET20

I assure you that my fronts do not have an offset of 20.

Here is a pic...its pretty flush and absolutely no rubbing. And yes, its getting coilovers next week so please don't make fun of my gap!

[v3.0si]

it's good that prodigal_m has misleading boxes as well. i found this link...

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323428

MrPedals apparently didn't get much help on the offset listings for his car either. at this point, we can assume forgestar is unwilling to share information on their wheels.

we'll see on saturday! can't wait for the pics!

[alvinli217]

Originally Posted by v3.0si

it's good that prodigal_m has misleading boxes as well. i found this link...

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323428

MrPedals apparently didn't get much help on the offset listings for his car either. at this point, we can assume forgestar is unwilling to share information on their wheels.

we'll see on saturday! can't wait for the pics!

i am pretty sure if ********** ask Forgestar, they would be able to get the offset for u

coz for myself working at Designo Auto House(Forgestar dealer of Canada), i asked what offset they would offer for my M to compare before i changed my mind to sell my APEX ARC-8 to the new CF5

Congrats on getting the wheels

[bhoch]

Thanks everyone! Yeah.. I'm pretty stoked about getting the wheels. Going to be a long wait till Saturday!

Progidal_m - thanks for the pics. Car looks GREAT!

As for the lugs. I have the new ones with the wheels. I'll talk with the guys putting the wheels on - I'll find out the details then on the lugs. If the BMW's ones are fine - I'll use them - if not, I'll put on the new ones. Either way, I'll do whatever is safest and correct for mounting them.

Teaser pic.. (really bad cell phone one after I opened one box...)

[3002 tii]

Wait, if you read MB's response above, why would you still want to put the BMW lugs on?

[r4gs]

would love to see how ur roadster looks with those gorgeous forgestars bill!

[bhoch]

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

Wait, if you read MB's response above, why would you still want to put the BMW lugs on?

mostly because I am stubborn and have to see / prove everything myself. I'll probably (most likely) be using the new lugs. it's really why I purchased them anyway...

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by bhoch

mostly because I am stubborn and have to see / prove everything myself. I'll probably (most likely) be using the new lugs. it's really why I purchased them anyway...

LOL I'm the same way but for something like this, there's really nothing to see. If you're not familiar with different lugs, this picture pretty much says it all:



Your Forgestars require lugs pictured in the left. Stock BMW lugs are those on the right. You can see how the stock lugs would fit but as you tighten it more, you will scratch/damage your wheels.

[bhoch]

^^ cool - THANKS for the pic. This being my first forray into BMW and new wheels this is excellent help! This really explains what MB said earlier as well!

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

LOL I'm the same way but for something like this, there's really nothing to see. If you're not familiar with different lugs, this picture pretty much says it all:



Your Forgestars require lugs pictured in the left. Stock BMW lugs are those on the right. You can see how the stock lugs would fit but as you tighten it more, you will scratch/damage your wheels.

Stock lug bolts are conical, like those pictured on the LEFT.