Z4 a cult or collectible car?

[eHelmholtz]

Do you reckon that the first generation e85/e86 Z4 will become a cult or collectible car?

[-c-]

well just for the numbers alone the Z4M coupe will be where its at as the M roadster will be less but the M will make it hold its own.

the 100+ thousand others will not fair as well.

it was a love it or hate it design which is in its favore as it kind of started the movement in BMW new design movment.

heck look at the edsel it was hated now worth tons, pontiac aztec....still hated by most and aint worth a scant, the Z to me is more sculpture and art in a roadster form so i hope it will be collectable one day. but who knows, origanal MINI's are collectable and still fetch a premium and they made TONS! but MINI's had a history thats tuff to match.

[Loogey Clapp]

Both. Currently, judging by the forum, it seems like a cult. However, it does seem like a lot of people on this forum are not going to part with their Z4s. Myself included. Doesn't matter if its a Coupe or Roadster, the damn things are just beautiful whatever way you look at them. I think there will be many in the future wishing and wanting to have one. On the road, I am still amazed at the number of looks my 6 year old car gets. Which is why I think they WILL become collectible.

[rsutoratosu]

I hope ill never have to get rid of mine or crash it

[dazed^]

Originally Posted by -c-

well just for the numbers alone the Z4M coupe will be where its at as the M roadster will be less but the M will make it hold its own.

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it was a love it or hate it design which is in its favore as it kind of started the movement in BMW new design movment.

Worldwide production numbers are not that different between M roadster and coupe, actually, despite what is often claimed here. It's 4507 for the coupe against 5239 for the roadster (source: bmw m registry website).

I agree that the love-or-hate, and fairly unique, design are in its favor. But I'm arguably also a part of the "cult", so probably biased as hell.

[mousitch]

IMHO, NA vs worldwide is a big difference considering emission standards I would think. The NA numbers are way lower for the coupe worldwide I believe.

[Huz-Z]

It would be nice to see more new members here, but other than that, it doesn't bother me one way or the other. I plan to keep my car for the long haul!

[mousitch]

Mine's a keeper to. I just need to keep it on the road and out of the ditch.

[gcochard]

1815 coupes and I think 3000 roadsters stayed in North America.

I would say the z4 coupe in M badging or not will become a cult/collector's car.

The roadster not so much, there are just way too many out there.

[jophish17]

It's funny, I've seen more M coupes since I started paying attention a couple years ago than I have M roadsters. Non-M Z4s are pretty common though, they'll hold some value because they are great cars, but I don't reckon they will ever be "collectible" hell I'm not sure the Z4M's will even match the Z3M's in terms of holding value

[Gripster]

Mines a second car and I didn't buy it to collect it, I bought it to drive. That said I do feel culty about it - like I've joined some sort of tribe. I can't see myself selling it for some time.

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by jophish17

It's funny, I've seen more M coupes since I started paying attention a couple years ago than I have M roadsters. Non-M Z4s are pretty common though, they'll hold some value because they are great cars, but I don't reckon they will ever be "collectible" hell I'm not sure the Z4M's will even match the Z3M's in terms of holding value

I think the Z4 M Coupe has all the elements the Z3 M Coupe had - small numbers and a devoted owner-base that keeps supply limited. We're currently within the clear-out area of the timeline - cars that are paid-off or coming off-lease that will see some owners moving to other cars seeking change. By 2014, when all cars are likely paid-up and out of warranty, the market will stabilize and you'll see fewer available, leading to prices steadying.

[TexasZed4MC]

Coming from the E30 M3 collector/cult car world. I can see the Z4 M Coupe being in that same catagory. Very low production numbers over 3 years even less than the M3, but far less racing heritage. I sold a prestine 88 M3 with a new 2.5 evo engine and great paint for $25k. in 2029 lets see how the M Coupe's value holds up! hahaha

[-c-]

Originally Posted by dazed^

Worldwide production numbers are not that different between M roadster and coupe, actually, despite what is often claimed here. It's 4507 for the coupe against 5239 for the roadster (source: bmw m registry website).

I agree that the love-or-hate, and fairly unique, design are in its favor. But I'm arguably also a part of the "cult", so probably biased as hell.

i meant world total number of all non M , the coupe VS the convertable thing is that their are tons more convertables than coupes reguardless of name plate so i would recon its the harder to find hence would be more colletable than the convertable regaurdless if its an M or not, either way its still a win as their is just that many of our cars around if you think the big picture.

[gferil]

I'm hoping both will be collectible, and wondering if the Z4M will follow the same trend as the Z3M, where the coupe version will hit cult status like some have mentioned above. I'd like to think I am going to keep this car for as long as possible, but as an enthusiast there are so many awesome cars out there that I'd like to try out, who knows what the future holds

[ricanbandit]

At first I was one of those that was definitely not enamored of the z4's looks. I thought the side profile was great, but the rear and front, eh while it didn't repulse me, it didn't make me drool either. I never expected to buy one, until this M came my way.

Now I smile as i walk to it, look over my shoulder as I walk away from it, and smile like a crazy man when I drive. I also keep coming here for more of whats going on with the community.

I think it is a cult thing, perhaps the M's will be collectibles as the worldwide production vs any other BMW's was so low. but the regular z's while amazing cars in their own right have simply too many out there to make it to collectible status, cult, oh hell yeah, ask any owner...

i don't think I will be getting rid of this car anytime soon

[mousitch]

Originally Posted by ricanbandit

Now I smile as i walk to it, look over my shoulder as I walk away from it, and smile like a crazy man when I drive.

I do this too

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by mousitch

I do this too

I think we all do.

[v3.2mc]

+1

although i also take pics of it while walking up to it, or away from it.

my wife used to think i was sick, now she thinks it's "normal".

[dazed^]

Originally Posted by -c-

i meant world total number of all non M , the coupe VS the convertable thing is that their are tons more convertables than coupes reguardless of name plate so i would recon its the harder to find hence would be more colletable than the convertable regaurdless if its an M or not, either way its still a win as their is just that many of our cars around if you think the big picture.

Hm ok, maybe. I don't think 2.8 Coupes (Z3) are considered to be anything special over here, though, to give a counter-example. Despite these being supposedly so rare and all.

Anyway, I'll settle for just a "hey kinda cool" title for my car.

[gcochard]

Originally Posted by gferil

I'm hoping both will be collectible, and wondering if the Z4M will follow the same trend as the Z3M, where the coupe version will hit cult status like some have mentioned above. I'd like to think I am going to keep this car for as long as possible, but as an enthusiast there are so many awesome cars out there that I'd like to try out, who knows what the future holds

If you get rid of yours, let me know.

[Nate2046]

Of course they'll be collectible, they're an interesting sports car. Sure production helps determine price but it isn't a make or break to determine whether something becomes 'collectible'. How many '64-69 Mustangs were built? Over a million? Still collectible.