Look familiar?

[XMetal]

This has a lot of Z4MC design cue in it, don't you think? => https://www.yahoo.com/autos/opel-bab...165027986.html

[jdoublehcubed]

Originally Posted by XMetal

This has a lot of Z4MC design cue in it, don't you think? => https://www.yahoo.com/autos/opel-bab...165027986.html

GM's oldest tradition is copying other auto makers, so its not that surprising. sad, and shameless, but not surprising.

[gas-can]

I'm not sure that behaviour is attributable only to GM, jd...

After all, isn't the Z4, and a lot of other sports cars 'inspired' by the likes of the Jaguar E type?

It seems like everyone is just copying everyone else. After all, aren't all cars really just boxes with 4 wheels attached?

(This from a guy that hates GM with a passion btw)
-gc

[jdoublehcubed]

Originally Posted by gas-can

I'm not sure that behaviour is attributable only to GM, jd...

After all, isn't the Z4, and a lot of other sports cars 'inspired' by the likes of the Jaguar E type?

It seems like everyone is just copying everyone else. After all, aren't all cars really just boxes with 4 wheels attached?

(This from a guy that hates GM with a passion btw)
-gc

i agree everyone does it, i just think GM is particularly notorious/shameless in their copying.

[Arsonism]

I'm surprised they didn't lean more towards the new stingray.

[Twixboy]

Originally Posted by jdoublehcubed

GM's oldest tradition is copying other auto makers, so its not that surprising. sad, and shameless, but not surprising.

Did GM copy BMW or did BMW copy Opel? Here's the original 1960's Opel GT:

[StickMon]

Shooting-brake.
Timeless.

[XMetal]

Originally Posted by Twixboy

Did GM copy BMW or did BMW copy Opel? Here's the original 1960's Opel GT

I don't know about that. The Opel GT looks a lot more like a Stingray than the Z4. I just happen to have a Z4 and an Opel side by side (well there's an Audi in the way )

[gas-can]

Really beautiful xmetal...that audi


I think the worst copiers are the koreans now though... Some of the Hyundais I see look just like Mercs, it's hilarious.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I guess!
-gc

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by jdoublehcubed

GM's oldest tradition is copying other auto makers...

I think that's the mission statement for Hyundai and Kia.

Originally Posted by XMetal

I don't know about that. The Opel GT looks a lot more like a Stingray than the Z4. I just happen to have a Z4 and an Opel side by side (well there's an Audi in the way )

I thought the same exact thing (re: stingray). It is like a muted version.

The new concept strikes me as part Z4C and part Merc.

[3GFX]

I like the new Opel, looks curvy and has a nice size.

[pungo]

Who copies who? I owned a Triumph GT6 with an inline 6, which has the overall profile of my Z4MC. Long hood, short hatchback fastback, 260Z, E-Type, etc...

[XMetal]

Another view point

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by jdoublehcubed

GM's oldest tradition is copying other auto makers, so its not that surprising. sad, and shameless, but not surprising.

Hummm.... examples?

[jdoublehcubed]

Originally Posted by pungo

Who copies who? I owned a Triumph GT6 with an inline 6, which has the overall profile of my Z4MC. Long hood, short hatchback fastback, 260Z, E-Type, etc...

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that's a beautiful car, very nice. much better than the opel in my opinion.

do you spend a lot of time dealing with electrical issues on that car? I've always liked Triumphs, but I've heard terrible things about the electrical reliability.

[pungo]

Originally Posted by jdoublehcubed

that's a beautiful car, very nice. much better than the opel in my opinion.

do you spend a lot of time dealing with electrical issues on that car? I've always liked Triumphs, but I've heard terrible things about the electrical reliability.

I said I "owned" one, I do not currently own one. I've hear of electrical issues with them, but have only had a alternator fail in many years and miles. The electrical system is pretty basic on these cars so I don't what kind of issues they have. I had both a GT6 and a spitfire, both the same car except the hardtop vs convertible and 4 vs 6 cyl engine. Kinda like the E85 vs E86 with the exception of different engines.

[3798j]

Electric componentry for British cars were supplied by Lucas Electric. Lucas has long been the butt of jokes about the English automobile's electrical gremlins. Going back to the late '60's, I've played with Triumphs and have not experienced any real difficulties. As Pungo said, they're pretty straightforward and simple electrical systems. Now having said that, here's a decal affixed to my tool box.



And here's my '68 Triumph GT6. I've been its caretaker since 1983.

[gas-can]

That's beautiful Jay. What else do you have in there? And you seem to have a predilection for red!

-gc

[Vanne]

what a beaut example of the TR6.. Love it, its rear butt reminisces of the early Bond movies. Class.

[3798j]

gas-can and Vanne...Thanks for the kind words.
The other red cars:
'85 Corvette...purchased in 1990, not worth much, still enjoy it.
'66 Triumph TR4A...purchased in 2003, had one in college, loved it then and now.
'64 Corvette...purchased in 1986, this makes some really good noises.
'55 Ford F100...purchased in 2000, re-done as a resto-mod-rod.

[Steeler]

Lovely TR4A

Lucas "God of darkness" has been given a bad rap methinks.
Having owned multiple British cars TVR, MGA and Marcos all with Lucas components I had very few issues.
As others have said the wiring in the 50s, 60s and 70s cars is very simple and easy to troubleshoot.

[XMetal]

Originally Posted by 3798j

gas-can and Vanne...Thanks for the kind words.
The other red cars:
'85 Corvette...purchased in 1990, not worth much, still enjoy it.
'66 Triumph TR4A...purchased in 2003, had one in college, loved it then and now.
'64 Corvette...purchased in 1986, this makes some really good noises.
'55 Ford F100...purchased in 2000, re-done as a resto-mod-rod.

Man...I want that garage - so jealous