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      12-22-2011, 06:40 PM   #23
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Wow you make a decision and then you run with it! I hope you enjoy your back seats!
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      12-22-2011, 07:22 PM   #24
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i like the e92 m3's. they definetly feel more like daily drivers, and much larger inside. i personally like how they look, obvioulsy more conservative than z4m's, but still very nice machines. congrats!!!
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I agree with you. Its really conservative but if done up right it can look awesome. In stock form its really lacking. Z4MC and Z4MR just looks more like its ready for business. I do love the luxury of the M3 which I was looking for and the Z4M cannot even come close...lol
I do miss the luxury/comfort aspects from time to time on long trips. I've driven 5 from Sacramento to L.A. pretty much non-stop in an E92 M3: I wasn't the least bit tired at all after driving that many hours. I can't say that about any other car I've driven that distance. On the other hand, there are aspects of the Z4M I prefer. Like anything there are tradeoffs.

Friend of mine just texted me about 30 min ago from Alhambra (just south of Pasadena) on his way home to Sacramento in a 1M. Lucky dog!

It's going to be interesting to see what that's like. The 135 I test drove was more nimble than the M3 in some ways (more understeer though) owing to shorter wheel base and lower weight. It was pretty darn comfortable inside. The 1M interior and seats look pretty similar to the M3, and if it's as comfortable as the M3 but even more nimble (M3 suspension bits, LSD, yet shorter wheelbase and lighter) it's going to be the best of both worlds. No EDC, but an M3 w/o EDC is still a very comfortable machine. The looks are more extreme (perhaps even polarizing) than the M3 as well. Many don't care for them, but I rather like what they've done with it. Needs a bit of a drop too though!
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      12-22-2011, 09:52 PM   #26
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I do miss the luxury/comfort aspects from time to time on long trips. I've driven 5 from Sacramento to L.A. pretty much non-stop in an E92 M3: I wasn't the least bit tired at all after driving that many hours. I can't say that about any other car I've driven that distance. On the other hand, there are aspects of the Z4M I prefer. Like anything there are tradeoffs.

Friend of mine just texted me about 30 min ago from Alhambra (just south of Pasadena) on his way home to Sacramento in a 1M. Lucky dog!

It's going to be interesting to see what that's like. The 135 I test drove was more nimble than the M3 in some ways (more understeer though) owing to shorter wheel base and lower weight. It was pretty darn comfortable inside. The 1M interior and seats look pretty similar to the M3, and if it's as comfortable as the M3 but even more nimble (M3 suspension bits, LSD, yet shorter wheelbase and lighter) it's going to be the best of both worlds. No EDC, but an M3 w/o EDC is still a very comfortable machine. The looks are more extreme (perhaps even polarizing) than the M3 as well. Many don't care for them, but I rather like what they've done with it. Needs a bit of a drop too though!
I thought of the 1M as well and I saw one or two of them for less than my M3 but thought it was just too small at this point. Meaning I just left the tiny Z4M. What really got me was driving to Seattle to pick up the M3. I had to stop twice in the Z4M because my ass and lower back cramped up. lol I was like F-that.lol I am almost 6'2" and this car is just too small in reality. Keep in mind though I have my seats up so they do not rub against the back. This = uncomfortable Z4M. I didn't want to rub and destroy that back portion and hate the leather on plastic sound. M3, I don't have to worry about that. lol
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Wow you make a decision and then you run with it! I hope you enjoy your back seats!
You have to. You can be gone tomorrow from this Earth. Enjoy the NOW, I say.
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      12-22-2011, 10:16 PM   #28
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I agree with you. Its really conservative but if done up right it can look awesome. In stock form its really lacking. Z4MC and Z4MR just looks more like its ready for business. I do love the luxury of the M3 which I was looking for and the Z4M cannot even come close...lol
I do miss the luxury/comfort aspects from time to time on long trips. I've driven 5 from Sacramento to L.A. pretty much non-stop in an E92 M3: I wasn't the least bit tired at all after driving that many hours. I can't say that about any other car I've driven that distance. On the other hand, there are aspects of the Z4M I prefer. Like anything there are tradeoffs.

Friend of mine just texted me about 30 min ago from Alhambra (just south of Pasadena) on his way home to Sacramento in a 1M. Lucky dog!

It's going to be interesting to see what that's like. The 135 I test drove was more nimble than the M3 in some ways (more understeer though) owing to shorter wheel base and lower weight. It was pretty darn comfortable inside. The 1M interior and seats look pretty similar to the M3, and if it's as comfortable as the M3 but even more nimble (M3 suspension bits, LSD, yet shorter wheelbase and lighter) it's going to be the best of both worlds. No EDC, but an M3 w/o EDC is still a very comfortable machine. The looks are more extreme (perhaps even polarizing) than the M3 as well. Many don't care for them, but I rather like what they've done with it. Needs a bit of a drop too though!
I routinely drive 420 miles on Friday returning the same 420 miles on Sunday in my M Roadster without much fatigue at all.

Geez, I thought the trips in CA where a lot longer but I see Sacremento to LA is only 384 mi. No problem in my car.
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      12-22-2011, 10:41 PM   #29
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I routinely drive 420 miles on Friday returning the same 420 miles on Sunday in my M Roadster without much fatigue at all.

Geez, I thought the trips in CA where a lot longer but I see Sacremento to LA is only 384 mi. No problem in my car.
That distance is possible without a problem in the Z for most folks. But the M3 is more comfortable. Would I sell my Z4M for a M3? Hell no! (I had, past tense, an E92 M3.) Great car, the Z4M is more my cup o' tea. But no denying the comfort of the M3, especially with EDC.
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      12-22-2011, 10:51 PM   #30
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drove my z4m from miami to philly with only stops for gas. no issues. but yeah, the m3 is a level above in comfort either way
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Friend of mine just texted me about 30 min ago from Alhambra (just south of Pasadena) on his way home to Sacramento in a 1M. Lucky dog!

It's going to be interesting to see what that's like.
I just had my friend's 1M for a week. What a car. I was looking to buy one but it became complicated with mark-ups and limited supply. In the end I am happy to have purchased the Z4M to compliment my M5; I truly believe it to be a classic. That said, the 1M makes me happy, for the first time in a while, about BMWs future. After so many cars with numb steering and electronic everything (yes, I have driven most of them), this car is a perfect antidote. I love the screaming character of the S54 but for a daily driver I really loved the N54s torque. Not surprising since I am used to the S62 in my E39 M5.
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      12-23-2011, 12:07 AM   #32
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I love the screaming character of the S54 but for a daily driver I really loved the N54s torque. Not surprising since I am used to the S62 in my E39 M5.
+1 driving the M Coupe was so much different that the M5. I had to mentally tell myself which car I was I before heading out because the had such different personalities.
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      12-23-2011, 12:08 AM   #33
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I routinely drive 420 miles on Friday returning the same 420 miles on Sunday in my M Roadster without much fatigue at all.

Geez, I thought the trips in CA where a lot longer but I see Sacremento to LA is only 384 mi. No problem in my car.
There is no way I am going to drive from Longview WA to San Diego in a Z4M. No thanks. Some of us are just to tall to keep it and some of us are only getting older. . lol My modified Z4MC looked sweet and I had regrets until I drove 4 hours home with the car. lol No leg aches, no back pain and I almost fell asleep driving. That never has happened in the Z4M. My legs are usually cramping up before that can happen. lol
Good thing is the Z4Ms are in the low to mid $20000s anyway so I can always buy another one.

How tall are you?
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      12-23-2011, 02:07 AM   #34
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My initial drive was a one-stop from Salt Lake City to Vancouver, BC. I'm 6'4" and had zero aches. I'm sure when I get older it won't be ideal, but it's all about finding that perfect seating position. A nice set of track pants helps too.
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      12-23-2011, 07:19 AM   #35
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I thought of the 1M as well and I saw one or two of them for less than my M3 but thought it was just too small at this point. Meaning I just left the tiny Z4M. What really got me was driving to Seattle to pick up the M3. I had to stop twice in the Z4M because my ass and lower back cramped up. lol I was like F-that.lol I am almost 6'2" and this car is just too small in reality. Keep in mind though I have my seats up so they do not rub against the back. This = uncomfortable Z4M. I didn't want to rub and destroy that back portion and hate the leather on plastic sound. M3, I don't have to worry about that. lol
That leather on plastic sound! Worse than nails on a chalkboard! The worst is trying to explain it to passengers. My roommate is 6'4" and regularly needs to be reminded that the sounds coming from his seat are not in fact normal.
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That leather on plastic sound! Worse than nails on a chalkboard! The worst is trying to explain it to passengers. My roommate is 6'4" and regularly needs to be reminded that the sounds coming from his seat are not in fact normal.
I removed the Subwoofer speaker grill, gained some leg room and no plastic sounds.
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I will most likely get an e92 M3 down the line and hope to keep the Z4MC around.

I am surprised you say the e92 M3 is not that much faster than a Z4M. My 20 minute drive in the M3 left me feeling like my MC was a slug for almost a week. That S62 is an amazing motor. And 1/4 mile times are more than 0.5s quicker in the e92 which is an eternity.
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I removed the Subwoofer speaker grill, gained some leg room and no plastic sounds.
good tip, I'm gonna try that.
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good tip, I'm gonna try that.
Roffle, if/when you do, think you could do some pics and a quick writeup?
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I've done it before by just prying it out, but there are tabs there that are very prone to cracking off, so I'll use a plastic trim removal kit http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece...set-67021.html
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Good thing is the Z4Ms are in the low to mid $20000s anyway so I can always buy another one.
The good ones aren't
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So I actually picked up my M roadster in Chicago and drove it back to Boston in a day--stopping only for food and bathroom breaks--and I loved every minute of the 16-hour drive. I guess this is one of the few times it helps to be 5'6".
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The Z4MR are. The Coupe are high $20s to low $30s... You are right on the coupe.
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That leather on plastic sound! Worse than nails on a chalkboard! The worst is trying to explain it to passengers. My roommate is 6'4" and regularly needs to be reminded that the sounds coming from his seat are not in fact normal.
Yup, you know what I am talking about. I didn't want that sound and thus never drove the car touching and being a little tall does not help. lol I am just thinking of excuses to make me like my M3 more. LOL
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