Coupe CF Trunk Spoiler -Discussion Thread

Shutterspeed · 05-03-2017, 10:03 AM

We have progress on my end for the foam prototype. Designer got the file made and is putting it in the mill today. Will update as it progresses.

Shutterspeed · 05-03-2017, 12:16 PM

Since I can't for the life of me figure out how to post a picture to the forum from Flickr on my phone. Here's the links to the image of the spoiler layout going to mill and a quick video of the spoiler in the design software.

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coh661 · 05-03-2017, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutterspeed

Since I can't for the life of me figure out how to post a picture to the forum from Flickr on my phone. Here's the links to the image of the spoiler layout going to mill and a quick video of the spoiler in the design software.

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Video

Nice!!!!!......this will go a long way in helping people pick the design

Shutterspeed · 05-03-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milamookie

Nice!!!!!......this will go a long way in helping people pick the design

Yeah that's what I'm hoping. That design is the one based around the Viper TA spoiler. Hopefully have it on the mill by Friday after this Millenium Falcon is done.

JonM · 05-09-2017, 07:36 AM

Count me as a buyer, too.

I like the notched design like the M4 and the original BMW E86 carbon spoiler. The notches continue the lines on the roof panel, which continue the lines on the hood. It makes sense to keep them going on the spoiler too.

Shutterspeed · 05-11-2017, 05:55 PM

First prototyped that was produced on the foam machine had some issues with the milling and finishing. Currently having the designer re-mill it in a different fashion to avoid those issues. Will update once I have a physical copy for you guys.

WickedNy · 05-12-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutterspeed

First prototyped that was produced on the foam machine had some issues with the milling and finishing. Currently having the designer re-mill it in a different fashion to avoid those issues. Will update once I have a physical copy for you guys.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 05-13-2017, 06:57 PM

count me in

Jackal · 05-16-2017, 01:14 PM

I'm interested to see what it looks like on a coupe. I may be in depending on the prototype design.

ZAR4MC · 05-17-2017, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by EMP07

I Like it too...

I can't seem to find a side profile shot.

this one was a once off spoiler... It was made by the first owner of the car... who also tried to sell them but didn't really get any interest...

I know the second owner of the car, when he received the car the spoiler wasn't on there anymore... apparently it broke.

The HACK · 05-17-2017, 11:32 AM

This looks good, but I hope whoever is investing their time and money into this is aware that there's only a few hundred of these they can sell.

So while I applaud the effort, and when it's done I will likely buy one (depending on price). But realistically, you're going to lose money on this.

Say, you charge $300 ea. Sell about 200 total for a conservative estimate. That's $60,000. Cost, factoring in the material, labor, R&D, etc, would probably run you about $8,000-$15,000 to make 200?

Not trying to be a debbie downer. Just playing devil's advocate.

JonM · 05-19-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

Say, you charge $300 ea. Sell about 200 total for a conservative estimate. That's $60,000. Cost, factoring in the material, labor, R&D, etc, would probably run you about $8,000-$15,000 to make 200?

I hear you. But, speaking as an aftermarket automotive plastics designer and seller, a 4:1 ROI is still worth doing. And, if the price you stated is low and the costs are stated as high, it gets even better.

The only competition is the $150ish ebay/Tekcarbon one. There is room in the market at $300 and maybe even higher if it's really excellent quality.

The HACK · 05-19-2017, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JonM

I hear you. But, speaking as an aftermarket automotive plastics designer and seller, a 4:1 ROI is still worth doing. And, if the price you stated is low and the costs are stated as high, it gets even better.

The only competition is the $150ish ebay/Tekcarbon one. There is room in the market at $300 and maybe even higher if it's really excellent quality.

True. And I do hope this happens because I want one. But purely playing it from the devil's advocate point of view. I guess the point I'm trying to make, is whoever is tackling this project head-on, need to know that they're doing this for the love of the car (and what they do), since from a pure marketing perspective, you're not going to make a metric butt-ton of money.

I like the passion, I LOVE the amount of innovation that happens here because of lack of aftermarket support. Just don't get blinded by your passion, that is all.

coh661 · 05-19-2017, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

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Originally Posted by JonM

I hear you. But, speaking as an aftermarket automotive plastics designer and seller, a 4:1 ROI is still worth doing. And, if the price you stated is low and the costs are stated as high, it gets even better.

The only competition is the $150ish ebay/Tekcarbon one. There is room in the market at $300 and maybe even higher if it's really excellent quality.

True. And I do hope this happens because I want one. But purely playing it from the devil's advocate point of view. I guess the point I'm trying to make, is whoever is tackling this project head-on, need to know that they're doing this for the love of the car (and what they do), since from a pure marketing perspective, you're not going to make a metric butt-ton of money.

I like the passion, I LOVE the amount of innovation that happens here because of lack of aftermarket support. Just don't get blinded by your passion, that is all.

Zed4Mr who is the one producing this spoiler also produced the roadster spoiler for their group buy so I'm sure he understands the business equation. Not sure if the demand is lower or higher for the coupe due to the overall number of coupe owners out there. Either way I'm grateful that this is happening and have offered any design services necessary to help make a decision. Props to Zed4MR!

WickedNy · 05-19-2017, 05:23 PM

I've been in since dec holding xmas money in an hidden envelope in center console....need this without question.

WickedNy · 06-07-2017, 06:56 PM

Updates?

Shutterspeed · 06-09-2017, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedNy

Updates?

My foam prototype got put on the back burner due to a large work load increase. I emailed the artist and she said she has the file set up, just needs time to send it to the mill. Hopefully see something soon.

WickedNy · 06-09-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutterspeed

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Originally Posted by WickedNy

Updates?

My foam prototype got put on the back burner due to a large work load increase. I emailed the artist and she said she has the file set up, just needs time to send it to the mill. Hopefully see something soon.

Eleanor · 06-13-2017, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeD4Mr

I'm waiting for the arrival notice to start the interest poll. The trunk hatch is somewhere in the Pacific Ocean right now.

For those who have dealt with me before, they know that I'm just very cautious about saying what I can deliver. I pray everyday that it'll be delivered at the manufacturer in one piece. When it gets there safely, the development of the piece should happen fairly quick.

Hey mate! How's it going with the hatch? By now it should have arrived in China.

ZeD4Mr · 06-13-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleanor

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Originally Posted by ZeD4Mr

I'm waiting for the arrival notice to start the interest poll. The trunk hatch is somewhere in the Pacific Ocean right now.

For those who have dealt with me before, they know that I'm just very cautious about saying what I can deliver. I pray everyday that it'll be delivered at the manufacturer in one piece. When it gets there safely, the development of the piece should happen fairly quick.

Hey mate! How's it going with the hatch? By now it should have arrived in China.

Eleanor,

The design poll has started, cast your vote there!

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1393009

cheers!

05-03-2017, 10:03 AM	#155
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