0-60 mph 5.3??!!

Rabid Panda · 12-07-2011, 05:01 PM

My ride is bone stock and the engine is tuned up and purrrrring, according to the android App (Torque..get it, its awesome!!) i'm putting about 190hp to the wheels. I know their are MANY variables, but that seems to be the average. The factory says 225 at the flywheel so with about a 15% loss.. 190hp isn't that far off base.
No for my question... Where is this elusive 5.3 second 0-60? The best i have ever seen measured on Torque or the old fashioned way (stopwatch) is 6.2.
I got walked by a Crossfire SRT-6 not to long ago, Granted i didn't have DSC off so when i shifted from 1st to 2nd the stupid DSC kicked in.
Regardless, I need to know if its me or the car.. has anyone else seen the blazing 5.3sec 0-60?

wyatth · 12-07-2011, 05:11 PM

Doesn't the SRT-6 have the 32 AMG supercharged AMG V6? Expect to be walked ...

WAMz4 · 12-07-2011, 05:15 PM

I'm not sure where the 5.3 second 0-60 went, but the Crossfire SRT-6 is built by Mecedes Benz and has a 3.2 Liter Supercharged V6 at 330 hp which they rate at 0-60 4.8 sec. So maybe it just felt slow.

ZStig · 12-07-2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Panda

My ride is bone stock and the engine is tuned up and purrrrring, according to the android App (Torque..get it, its awesome!!) i'm putting about 190hp to the wheels. I know their are MANY variables, but that seems to be the average. The factory says 225 at the flywheel so with about a 15% loss.. 190hp isn't that far off base.
No for my question... Where is this elusive 5.3 second 0-60? The best i have ever seen measured on Torque or the old fashioned way (stopwatch) is 6.2.
I got walked by a Crossfire SRT-6 not to long ago, Granted i didn't have DSC off so when i shifted from 1st to 2nd the stupid DSC kicked in.
Regardless, I need to know if its me or the car.. has anyone else seen the blazing 5.3sec 0-60?

there's a LOT of factors that go into laying down the optimal 0-60 time. Tire temperature, pressure, your launch technique, your shifting technique, and your combined skill are the major ones

chickdr · 12-07-2011, 06:12 PM

5.3 seconds seems very optimistic to me. The M Roadster is listed at 5.0s to 60 and has 330hp.

beta · 12-07-2011, 06:25 PM

It's really hard to do a perfect 0-60 launch. It took many launches to get to 5 seconds in my M. I remember my first one was over 6 seconds and I was confused since I thought it was a pretty good launch. Takes practice.

WestCDA · 12-07-2011, 06:47 PM

Altitude is another big factor for engine performance.

Flying Scotsman · 12-07-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Panda

My ride is bone stock and the engine is tuned up and purrrrring, according to the android App (Torque..get it, its awesome!!) i'm putting about 190hp to the wheels. I know their are MANY variables, but that seems to be the average. The factory says 225 at the flywheel so with about a 15% loss.. 190hp isn't that far off base.
No for my question... Where is this elusive 5.3 second 0-60? The best i have ever seen measured on Torque or the old fashioned way (stopwatch) is 6.2.
I got walked by a Crossfire SRT-6 not to long ago, Granted i didn't have DSC off so when i shifted from 1st to 2nd the stupid DSC kicked in.
Regardless, I need to know if its me or the car.. has anyone else seen the blazing 5.3sec 0-60?

Bmw specs are done in ideal conditions with proper equipment and professional drivers. 5.3 sec 0-60????? don't know where your getting your figures from, your car is low 6.0's (can't remember exact figure).

3002 tii · 12-07-2011, 08:51 PM

5.3 sounds like the quoted number for the 255hp 3.0si...

Rabid Panda · 12-07-2011, 09:01 PM

http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html

Not sure if that link works...scroll on down to the Z4.
I know that a lot of times, mags will make several runs, different directions, different times of the day, and then average them.

I'm no Michael Schumacher, or I guess Roy Hill in this case... But I have lots of seat time, and am not some 16yr old dumpling the clutch on his moms Honda...(no offense 16yr olds, we were all that kid)...however the best real world time I've seen is 6.2.

Rabid Panda · 12-07-2011, 09:15 PM

That vid is an m coupe.... I have a roadster.

BIMMERGUY91 · 12-07-2011, 09:19 PM

I actually had the opportunity to race an SRT6 Crossfire one day and it was a very close race. We were essentially neck and neck and I started to pull on him in the top end some.

Rabid Panda · 12-07-2011, 09:33 PM

The Srt-6 is fast and should walk a roadster... a Z4MC...not so much...i want to know some real world stock roadster 0-60 times. Anyone got any?

jatmallet · 12-07-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Panda

The Srt-6 is fast and should walk a roadster... a Z4MC...not so much...i want to know some real world stock roadster 0-60 times. Anyone got any?

Um, whilst I have no real world times, a quick google search indicates that the m roaddie is just as fast as the m coupe... So I'm not sure why the Srt-6 would whip one and not the other. Could you explain?

ZStig · 12-07-2011, 11:18 PM

non-m roadster

ricanbandit · 12-08-2011, 07:42 AM

Dude, I drank the KoolAid and got torque. What dongle are you using for your OBDll bluetooth connectivity?

This app is crazy!

NJ-Eric · 12-08-2011, 09:54 AM

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-30i-specs.pdf

NJ-Eric · 12-08-2011, 09:56 AM

and... http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test

v3.0si · 12-08-2011, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Panda

http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html

Not sure if that link works...

the link works, but it can't be trusted. there is no way in hell an e39 ///m5 is only 0.1 sec faster than an e46 330xi (which they have in the sub 5 sec catagory). or that a '96 ///m3 is 1.5 sec faster than a '95 ///m3. and there are a lot more screwups than those on there.

ZStig · 12-08-2011, 10:34 AM

those numbers are from various sources tested under varied conditions, thats why there's no consistency

but anyway, bench racing is pointless. Your car is only as quick as you drive it

Kgolf31 · 12-08-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

those numbers are from various sources tested under varied conditions, thats why there's no consistency

but anyway, bench racing is pointless. Your car is only as quick as you drive it

Yep.

As well, there was a big article on how people tested the 0-60 times...some magazines tested the 0-60 from an actual 1mph roll...while other actually launched it.

I know the best I got was 5.0...but others have been able to get 4.8. Alot of variables are in effect. I bet if I threw slicks on the car I'd get that 4.8 easily.

Rabid Panda · 12-08-2011, 02:19 PM

I just put down some runs... Nice flat road, dry surface, 50f on the air temp. For 5 passes the best i saw was 6.0 the worst 6.8. I'd say that's as good as i'm gonna get. Torque would never give the same HP twice...lol... between 160 and 201.. that translates to between 185 and 231 at the flywheel... I'd like to think i'm getting closer to 231...LOL

The moral of this post is to figure out if my engine is producing the power it should be, or should i start digging around for parts to replace. The engine only has 40k miles on it... Sooooo I guess if i am getting 6.0 to 60mph then there is no reason to think that my engine is not preforming at its best... right?

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Rabid Panda Enlisted Member 2 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2003 Z4 E85 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	0-60 mph 5.3??!! My ride is bone stock and the engine is tuned up and purrrrring, according to the android App (Torque..get it, its awesome!!) i'm putting about 190hp to the wheels. I know their are MANY variables, but that seems to be the average. The factory says 225 at the flywheel so with about a 15% loss.. 190hp isn't that far off base. No for my question... Where is this elusive 5.3 second 0-60? The best i have ever seen measured on Torque or the old fashioned way (stopwatch) is 6.2. I got walked by a Crossfire SRT-6 not to long ago, Granted i didn't have DSC off so when i shifted from 1st to 2nd the stupid DSC kicked in. Regardless, I need to know if its me or the car.. has anyone else seen the blazing 5.3sec 0-60?
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wyatth Colonel 3549 Rep 2,824 Posts Drives: E90 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Doesn't the SRT-6 have the 32 AMG supercharged AMG V6? Expect to be walked ...
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WAMz4 First Lieutenant 45 Rep 384 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4 3.0si Roady Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Denver CO iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure where the 5.3 second 0-60 went, but the Crossfire SRT-6 is built by Mecedes Benz and has a 3.2 Liter Supercharged V6 at 330 hp which they rate at 0-60 4.8 sec. So maybe it just felt slow. __________________ The Internet said it. I believe it. That settles it!
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chickdr Lieutenant Colonel 140 Rep 1,991 Posts Drives: 2006 M Roadster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buford, GA iTrader: (0)	5.3 seconds seems very optimistic to me. The M Roadster is listed at 5.0s to 60 and has 330hp.
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beta Lieutenant Colonel 80 Rep 1,663 Posts Drives: 2006 M Roadster Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: CA iTrader: (2)	It's really hard to do a perfect 0-60 launch. It took many launches to get to 5 seconds in my M. I remember my first one was over 6 seconds and I was confused since I thought it was a pretty good launch. Takes practice. __________________ modification journal
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Rabid Panda Enlisted Member 2 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2003 Z4 E85 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html Not sure if that link works...scroll on down to the Z4. I know that a lot of times, mags will make several runs, different directions, different times of the day, and then average them. I'm no Michael Schumacher, or I guess Roy Hill in this case... But I have lots of seat time, and am not some 16yr old dumpling the clutch on his moms Honda...(no offense 16yr olds, we were all that kid)...however the best real world time I've seen is 6.2.
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Rabid Panda Enlisted Member 2 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2003 Z4 E85 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	That vid is an m coupe.... I have a roadster.
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BIMMERGUY91 Captain 113 Rep 855 Posts Drives: 2014 335I M Sport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL iTrader: (2)	I actually had the opportunity to race an SRT6 Crossfire one day and it was a very close race. We were essentially neck and neck and I started to pull on him in the top end some. __________________ 2014 335i M Sport 2010 328i M Sport 2007 Z4MC #1019/1815 (Sold) 1997 M3 (Sold) 1991 325i
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Rabid Panda Enlisted Member 2 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2003 Z4 E85 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	The Srt-6 is fast and should walk a roadster... a Z4MC...not so much...i want to know some real world stock roadster 0-60 times. Anyone got any?
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ricanbandit Captain 29 Rep 782 Posts Drives: 2011 30i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Detroit Metro Area iTrader: (0)	Dude, I drank the KoolAid and got torque. What dongle are you using for your OBDll bluetooth connectivity? This app is crazy! __________________ 2011 30i [SIGPIC]/SIGPIC]
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ZStig instagram 997turbotom 279 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4MR Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Delray Beach, FL iTrader: (4)	those numbers are from various sources tested under varied conditions, thats why there's no consistency but anyway, bench racing is pointless. Your car is only as quick as you drive it __________________
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Rabid Panda Enlisted Member 2 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2003 Z4 E85 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I just put down some runs... Nice flat road, dry surface, 50f on the air temp. For 5 passes the best i saw was 6.0 the worst 6.8. I'd say that's as good as i'm gonna get. Torque would never give the same HP twice...lol... between 160 and 201.. that translates to between 185 and 231 at the flywheel... I'd like to think i'm getting closer to 231...LOL The moral of this post is to figure out if my engine is producing the power it should be, or should i start digging around for parts to replace. The engine only has 40k miles on it... Sooooo I guess if i am getting 6.0 to 60mph then there is no reason to think that my engine is not preforming at its best... right?
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