ZPOST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts


Go Back   ZPOST > BMW Z4 Roadster and Coupe > General BMW Z4 Forum
  TireRack

SUPPORT ZPOST BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER, THANKS!
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-14-2008, 11:59 AM   #45
Black///Mamba
Lieutenant
Black///Mamba's Avatar
53
Rep
598
Posts

Drives: a beast
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nickpapa View Post
not trying to start a fight or anything, just clarifying that i was one of the "not much of a difference" guys and i completely removed the CDV. I didnt replace it with a modified one.

and yes def bleed the line. i clamped my line and a few drips came out but when i bled it i definitely got some bubbles coming out.
what kind of issues can arise if you do not bleed the clutch line?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-16-2008, 08:04 PM   #46
nickpapa
First Lieutenant
nickpapa's Avatar
23
Rep
374
Posts

Drives: Z4 3.0
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black///Mamba View Post
what kind of issues can arise if you do not bleed the clutch line?
its not so much like something bad will actually happen, its more of just not moving the fluid correctly.

its kinda like drinking soda out of a straw that has a hole on it at the very top. when you suck up you get air/soda coming in rather than straight soda. a little confusing analogy but thats the best i can think of lol

basically (and this goes for brakes as well), the pedal feel will not be as responsive compared to a line that was correctly bled. I never had an issue with air in a clutch line so im not sure how different that would feel, but with air in brake lines it is a night and day difference.
Appreciate 0
      12-05-2008, 11:11 PM   #47
chris719
Major General
7334
Rep
7,299
Posts

Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

I just had it done earlier today on my M roadster and I can say that it is a very worthwhile modification. It was immediately noticeable and would be noticeable in a blind test also. Mostly, the difference is that there is no more "lag" in engagement, so you can properly feel where you are. Biggest differences are in low speed stuff (parking / reverse and the 1-2 shift). My clutch pedal also seems very slightly lighter, but this might be a mental thing. Overall, everything feels like it works the way it should have from the factory, much smoother.
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 12:38 PM   #48
thekurgan
Bad Lieutenant
thekurgan's Avatar
United_States
233
Rep
3,517
Posts

Drives: E90M3
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3  [0.00]
Great observations, I too, have notice that in the cold weather, there is absolutely no more horse-bucking action, even while shifting slowly and clutch engagement is much better modulated as well as lighter. So far, my best mod.
__________________
02 E39M5 | TiAg/Schwartz | Tubi Rumore | Ultimate Ti Pedals | E60 SSK | Jim Blanton 3.45 40/100% | Coby Alcantara | StrongStrut STB
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 05:53 PM   #49
Mikewarlover
Major
Mikewarlover's Avatar
Canada
40
Rep
1,165
Posts

Drives: white
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Richmond BC

iTrader: (0)

I had my cdv modified few days ago and the effect was very big and dramatic much more than wat i was expecting. Do it
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 06:06 PM   #50
jmillet
Captain
jmillet's Avatar
64
Rep
666
Posts

Drives: 2023 Hyundai IONIQ 6 SEL AWD
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Wink Clutch hose circumcision

Just finished circumcising the clutch line on a 2008 Sepang Bronze Metallic (color looks much better in person than in pictures) Z4MC with 7000 miles on the clock.
One trick to not losing much brake fluid and minimizing air in the line is seal the reservior cap with Saran Wrap. A wooden golf tee also works well to plug the slave cylinder side of the line while removing the CDV. After reconnecting the clutch hose sans CDV I pressure bled the system at the slave cylinder using a Motive Power Bleeder. Pumped up the clutch pedal several times during the bleeding process and when complete we had a firm clutch pedal and no clutch delay.
Total cost: one hour of my sorry a$$ retired time and some brake fluid.
__________________
Jim Millet
2023 Hyundai IONIQ 6 SEL AWD Ultimate Red
SOLD: 2007 BMW Z4 M Coupe Imola Red

Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 06:33 PM   #51
MMMazing07
More than you can afford pal....ferrari
MMMazing07's Avatar
181
Rep
1,471
Posts

Drives: Z4M
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: MD

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmillet View Post
Just finished circumcising the clutch line on a 2008 Sepang Bronze Metallic (color looks much better in person than in pictures) Z4MC with 7000 miles on the clock.
One trick to not losing much brake fluid and minimizing air in the line is seal the reservior cap with Saran Wrap. A wooden golf tee also works well to plug the slave cylinder side of the line while removing the CDV. After reconnecting the clutch hose sans CDV I pressure bled the system at the slave cylinder using a Motive Power Bleeder. Pumped up the clutch pedal several times during the bleeding process and when complete we had a firm clutch pedal and no clutch delay.
Total cost: one hour of my sorry a$$ retired time and some brake fluid.
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 06:54 PM   #52
ChiefRes
Private First Class
ChiefRes's Avatar
United_States
20
Rep
119
Posts

Drives: 2007 Z4M Coupe
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Bluegrass

iTrader: (0)

Does anyone else find it absolutely ridiculous that BMW puts the CDV on cars at all? I love my Z4M Coupe, but I find the shift action (particularly the 1-2 shift) appalling.

I did the 2 day Porsche Sport Driving School in Birmingham in October, and all I kept thinking on the track was how much better the Porsches shifted.
__________________
2007 Z4M Coupe--GONE
Alpine White/Imola Red
Appreciate 0
      12-06-2008, 08:26 PM   #53
Mikewarlover
Major
Mikewarlover's Avatar
Canada
40
Rep
1,165
Posts

Drives: white
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Richmond BC

iTrader: (0)

Yea its amazing why they put CDV on the M it totally ruins car. With the CDV modified the car now shift much more smoothly.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:22 PM.




zpost
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST