another intermitant starting issue

schwank · 07-13-2013, 03:03 PM

Hi guys,
My 06 z4MC has started not starting... it seems like it might be heat related, but I am not sure. Basically it either starts up no problem, or I turn the key and it "pops" under the hood, its like an electronic snap, but the starter doesnt move. To me it sounds like a bad starter or solenoid since the signal is getting under the hood. If I turn the key without the clutch down, it does nothing, with the clutch engaged it "pops" under the hood.

Any thoughts?

thanks!

StickMon · 07-13-2013, 03:28 PM

Check the wiring to make sure everything is making good contact.
If that looks OK, sounds like typical solenoid failure.

Comes as one piece starter + solenoid.

yousefnjr · 07-13-2013, 05:14 PM

I've had this happen twice on my Z's, first was a bad starter and the second was a bad ignition switch. GL

wonton180 · 07-15-2013, 07:39 PM

do you have a clutch stop? this burned me last summer....

basically, it mimics the issue you are having. car will start fine in a cool spot or garage, and once sitting in the heat of the day, the rubber expands to the point where your foot travel is not enough to satisfy the clutch switch. The starter won't turn.

schwank · 07-17-2013, 08:22 AM

thanks for the replies guys!

It doesnt do anything If I dont push the clutch in. no click no pop, no nothing. Ill see if I can get it to act up again, and look at that clutch stop though (I dont have an after market one).

inTgr8r · 07-17-2013, 02:08 PM

if you dont have an after market one that is taller, then that wont be the issue.
sounds more like wiring (corrosion, high resistive contact) or starter/solonoid issue to me

seank · 07-17-2013, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

if you dont have an after market one that is taller, then that wont be the issue.
sounds more like wiring (corrosion, high resistive contact) or starter/solonoid issue to me

whs

psygnosis · 07-17-2013, 05:39 PM

It doesn't sound like it's the problem, but it couldn't hurt to try the other key.

schwank · 08-05-2013, 07:35 AM

I just replaced the starter with a little help from this thread. So far that seems to have been the problem. Thanks for all the suggestions!

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777861

07-13-2013, 03:03 PM	#1
schwank First Lieutenant 30 Rep 317 Posts Drives: 06 z4 m coupe Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cincinnati iTrader: (0)	another intermitant starting issue Hi guys, My 06 z4MC has started not starting... it seems like it might be heat related, but I am not sure. Basically it either starts up no problem, or I turn the key and it "pops" under the hood, its like an electronic snap, but the starter doesnt move. To me it sounds like a bad starter or solenoid since the signal is getting under the hood. If I turn the key without the clutch down, it does nothing, with the clutch engaged it "pops" under the hood. Any thoughts? thanks! __________________ K&W v3, APR splitter, magnaflow axle back35% tint, stubby antenna, Jet black, and interlagos blue stock wheels, clutch delay delete, illuminated ZHP shift knob, Leather Z m shift boot, and arm rest.
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07-13-2013, 03:28 PM	#2
StickMon My other car is on Mars 636 Rep 3,124 Posts Drives: 2006 MR Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lo-Cal iTrader: (1)	Check the wiring to make sure everything is making good contact. If that looks OK, sounds like typical solenoid failure. Comes as one piece starter + solenoid.
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07-13-2013, 05:14 PM	#3
yousefnjr salty cowboys fan 6159 Rep 3,408 Posts Drives: ‘06 Z4MR, ‘20 X7, ‘22 M4x Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	I've had this happen twice on my Z's, first was a bad starter and the second was a bad ignition switch. GL
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07-15-2013, 07:39 PM	#4
wonton180 Private First Class 3 Rep 106 Posts Drives: 07 Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	do you have a clutch stop? this burned me last summer.... basically, it mimics the issue you are having. car will start fine in a cool spot or garage, and once sitting in the heat of the day, the rubber expands to the point where your foot travel is not enough to satisfy the clutch switch. The starter won't turn.
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07-17-2013, 08:22 AM	#5
schwank First Lieutenant 30 Rep 317 Posts Drives: 06 z4 m coupe Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cincinnati iTrader: (0)	thanks for the replies guys! It doesnt do anything If I dont push the clutch in. no click no pop, no nothing. Ill see if I can get it to act up again, and look at that clutch stop though (I dont have an after market one). __________________ K&W v3, APR splitter, magnaflow axle back35% tint, stubby antenna, Jet black, and interlagos blue stock wheels, clutch delay delete, illuminated ZHP shift knob, Leather Z m shift boot, and arm rest.
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07-17-2013, 02:08 PM	#6
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	if you dont have an after market one that is taller, then that wont be the issue. sounds more like wiring (corrosion, high resistive contact) or starter/solonoid issue to me __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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07-17-2013, 05:39 PM	#8
psygnosis Major 23 Rep 1,034 Posts Drives: '04 Z4 3.0i Sport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	It doesn't sound like it's the problem, but it couldn't hurt to try the other key. __________________ Straightaways are for fast cars, Corners are for fast drivers.
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08-05-2013, 07:35 AM	#9
schwank First Lieutenant 30 Rep 317 Posts Drives: 06 z4 m coupe Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cincinnati iTrader: (0)	I just replaced the starter with a little help from this thread. So far that seems to have been the problem. Thanks for all the suggestions! http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777861 __________________ K&W v3, APR splitter, magnaflow axle back35% tint, stubby antenna, Jet black, and interlagos blue stock wheels, clutch delay delete, illuminated ZHP shift knob, Leather Z m shift boot, and arm rest.
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