What is a trust worthy clutch/flywheel brand?

[Z4-VILLA]

im looking to replace the clutch and flywheel and i want something that improves accelleration. Or anything that anyone has tried would probably be considered

[F360C]

Take a look at Rogues products

[Z4-VILLA]

all i see are m3 e46 packages and the prices look appealing but idk if they will fir on the roadster even though both share the same engine i do know that the tranny was basically completely new for our cars as far as design goes.....

[O-cha]

Get a JB racing flywheel.

As for clutch you're going to have a hard time. I have yet to be able to confirm what spline our clutch has, it's either the m3 or its a very rare high spline count that there's hardly any good offerings for.

[Z4-VILLA]

jb racing it is then.... i guess ill just oem replace the disc

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by Z4-Villalona

jb racing it is then.... i guess ill just oem replace the disc

If you do for the love of god take pictures and count the splines.

Also, if you have the ability for the car to be down I can tell you what car it shares clutches with.

[onebluemcm]

O-cha - I just may have confirmed your suspicions - check this out...if there is any merrit to it, it's a high spline count input shaft

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1492268

Hard to count, I get 22 or 23 splines. More, smaller splines isn't bad from a strength point of view though, is it? Not that input shaft slpine strength is even that relevant on this car.....

[inTgr8r]

yes... & then there's the post by Rob Levinson (UUC)

This is incorrect. The Z4M (p/n 23007837983) and E46 330 6-speed (p/n 23007532498) are not the same. They are both variations of the GS6-37BZ, but not identical.

The obvious difference, and this is how I can tell from your pics, is that the 330 uses the flywheel with integral pilot bearing (which is unique among BMW transmissions). The transmission input shaft couples with the flywheel. That's why you have that pilot bearing adapter piece for a regular flywheel.

The Z4M is set up with a conventional crank-mounted pilot bearing, input shaft of the transmission couples with the crankshaft.

What's the difference and does it matter? The only advantage to the standard setup in the Z4M is that it opens up additional clutch choices... the 330 flywheel has specific dimensions which cannot be altered.

As far as which is stronger, E46 M3 or the Z4M/330... my normal guess would be the E46 M3 as it is basically the same internal mechanical parts as the E39 M5 (but the M3 has better shift forks), and you don't often see those fail from power.

There are also some other differences such as the mounting points for the support brace, the M3 version mates up to the Euro brace for the E36 which, if I recall correctly, can be fitted to the Z3 easily. The Z4M/330 box may require some custom parts.

You should also be able to use the automatic transmission driveshaft with the M3 box. The Z4M/330 will require a custom piece.

I've fitted a variety of these boxes to different cars, including my own. I have the E46 M3 gearbox in my E36 (easy bolt-in) and Z4M in my S52-powered E30 (difficult, required custom parts).

Again, great project, looking forward to seeing how it comes out!

[Thisisdudewhoru]

I think os giken makes clutches...

[mfanatic325]

I think Trojan makes condoms...

I'm JK! I should get a slap on the wrist for not contributing to this thread lol...

Free bump though, cuz I'm curious about this. Want to get lightweight flywheel and an upgraded clutch down the road

[Thisisdudewhoru]

Well I meant for our cars. But you get the point.

[pokeybritches]

Not to threadjack, but I'm also thinking about getting one for my 3.0i. It seems like I have to wait ~2 sec to upshift. The revs hang for what seems like an eternity.

UUC Link

I'm considering that one since it's a matched set, and I've read it's important to match the clutch to the lightweight flywheel. My original clutch has 110k miles on it. I'm fairly easy with it, but I have no idea how the car was driven for the first 55k miles. Judging by the curb rash on the wheels when I bought it, RFTs, alignment ridiculously out of spec, and the pen I found advertising some sort of pharmaceutical drug, I'm guessing a rich doctor that didn't know what he was doing owned it before me.

[Z4-VILLA]

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...unt2=321601510
so then i guess this would be a good choice for me
look for the z4 m combo

[mfanatic325]

Originally Posted by Thisisdudewhoru

Well I meant for our cars. But you get the point.

Yeah I know, no worries man. I just felt like being a douche and enlarging my e-penis for all of 5 seconds

Originally Posted by Z4-Villalona

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=uuc&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=404461085 &Count2=321601510
so then i guess this would be a good choice for me
look for the z4 m combo

uhhhh...it says:
"Z4 & MZ4 2002-2009

There are currently no products in this category."

Quit playing games with my heart

[Z4-VILLA]

wow, i once put this in my cart....and its still there showing up as 1174.00 or something with shipping included....lol
damn sorry about that

[Z4-VILLA]

yet some how i think if i pay now i will get effed some how

[mfanatic325]

Originally Posted by Z4-Villalona

yet some how i think if i pay now i will get effed some how

No worries. UUC effs everyone. They should add an f in front, and k at the end and a YOU for good measure. Effectively renaming the entire company to "f UUC k YOU Motorwerks". Slogan could be: "we eff you up nice and good"

Last time I ordered a humble <$200-worth of "in-stock" parts. I never got any e-mails informing me of a backorder (had to find out online after a few weeks without receiving any packages in the mail). Never got any updates either until I called in. The rep on the phone made it seem like they totally forgot about my order altogether lol. And because they're so _ _ _ ish, they refused to ship out the part of my order that was in stock at the time that I placed my order. So I had to wait over a month until the backordered items were back in their inventory before they shipped everything out altogether. Ground shipping too. Woot! Good thing I ordered well ahead of time and was in no rush for the items.

Cool story eh? =]

[Z4-VILLA]

title change joke was awesome

[mfanatic325]

Glad you enjoyed that one. I actually tried pretty hard. Took me like 5 minutes to tell that joke/story. Partly cause some ricer detracted my attention and I lost my train of thought when he/she decided to wake my entire neighborhood by peelin' out from a stop sign @ freakin' 12:40 in the morning


It wasn't me, I swear
My MR2 is parked up on the driveway and covered right now.
That's all the rice I got right now =P

[Z4-VILLA]

how do you like the mr2?

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by mfanatic325

No worries. UUC effs everyone. They should add an f in front, and k at the end and a YOU for good measure. Effectively renaming the entire company to "f UUC k YOU Motorwerks". Slogan could be: "we eff you up nice and good"

Last time I ordered a humble <$200-worth of "in-stock" parts. I never got any e-mails informing me of a backorder (had to find out online after a few weeks without receiving any packages in the mail). Never got any updates either until I called in. The rep on the phone made it seem like they totally forgot about my order altogether lol. And because they're so _ _ _ ish, they refused to ship out the part of my order that was in stock at the time that I placed my order. So I had to wait over a month until the backordered items were back in their inventory before they shipped everything out altogether. Ground shipping too. Woot! Good thing I ordered well ahead of time and was in no rush for the items.

Cool story eh? =]

+1

They have great prices and for the most part, their products but their customer service takes a dump big time.

I ordered a brake kit from them, and they sent me the wrong brackets. They accused me and my friend of a faulty install. To make matters worse, the install was attempted on the weekend when nobody was around their office. So I basically took off the oe brakes just to put them back on and spent 2 hours effectively doing a brake flush. I had to send them my brackets first so they can confirm wrong parts were sent, and it was only 2 weeks later I got the correct parts. 2 friggin weeks, 1 week for them to confirm, 1 week to send back ground, wtf? No credit, no expedited shipping, no nada.

Then during their Black Friday special, I ordered a sway bar which of course was on back order but I was never informed either. The update just said "processing" for 2 weeks. It was only after I called, they confirmed that it was on backorder but would ship "any day now"... suffice to say I done with them and just cancelled the order entirely.

[mfanatic325]

Originally Posted by Z4-Villalona

how do you like the mr2?

To spare this thread from me UUC-ing it up anymore, I'll just leave a tidbit.
I tracked the MR2 a total of only 4 times before I got my M coupe. It's a great car for what it is. Definitely ahead of its time. But it's old now, and obviously can't compare to a BMW in overall package. I felt that it was a great stepping stone for me though, as driving that car fast is very difficult. So by the time I jumped into the M, I had at least already developed some good fundamental driving skill. And now I feel like I've got the hands and feet of a God when I'm driving the M LOL...

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

+1

They have great prices and for the most part, their products but their customer service takes a dump big time.

I ordered a brake kit from them, and they sent me the wrong brackets. They accused me and my friend of a faulty install. To make matters worse, the install was attempted on the weekend when nobody was around their office. So I basically took off the oe brakes just to put them back on and spent 2 hours effectively doing a brake flush. I had to send them my brackets first so they can confirm wrong parts were sent, and it was only 2 weeks later I got the correct parts. 2 friggin weeks, 1 week for them to confirm, 1 week to send back ground, wtf? No credit, no expedited shipping, no nada.

Then during their Black Friday special, I ordered a sway bar which of course was on back order but I was never informed either. The update just said "processing" for 2 weeks. It was only after I called, they confirmed that it was on backorder but would ship "any day now"... suffice to say I done with them and just cancelled the order entirely.

I can't believe how so many businesses are lacking in the customer service department. If I were running my own business, I'd treat it as if I were being contacted by my friends. I currently use a BlackBerry, and I keep it with me all the time. Whenever I get messages, I reply ASAP. Businesses should treat their customers with the utmost respect, because without them there would be no business whatsoever. /end rant