BMW Competitors

Eccentric · 08-12-2010, 04:45 PM

Being a young guy in an M Coupe, people try to race me all the time. I've had everything from a 370Z, to a C5 vette, and it just got me thinking about the perfect rival for our car. I know the Caymans and Boxsters present an immediate first choice, but i've never seen anyone try to race one which makes me think that the old-rich-guy persona of those P-Cars puts them in a different category. What are your thoughts? In a cinematically perfect situation, which car would you picture dueling with a Z4 M on the backroads?

chickdr · 08-12-2010, 05:35 PM

Boxster S / Cayman S for an ///MC/R. Boxster / Cayman for an si

Eccentric · 08-12-2010, 06:03 PM

lol predictable..

jragan · 08-12-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chickdr

Boxster S / Cayman S for an ///MC/R. Boxster / Cayman for an si

I think it depends a lot on the generation. Would you agree that

997.2 *S > (997.1 *S || 987.2 CS || E85/6) > (996 *S || 987.1 CS || 987.2 C) > 987.1 C

Legend:
Items in parenthesis are considered more or less equal.
*S denotes all variants of the Carerra S (C2S, C4S, etc)

Trev · 08-12-2010, 06:21 PM

With driver's of similar talent anything in SCCA's A Stock class is an even match. Anything lower & you should be ashamed of yourself. Anything higher then your either a driving God! or they've run out of talent

2010 A-Stock Classification:
BMW M3 (E90 chassis) (2008-10)
Z4 M Coupe & Roadster (2006-08)
Chevrolet Corvette (C5 chassis, non-Z06) (1997-2004)
Lexus IS F (2008-10)
Lotus Esprit Turbo (1996-2004)
Mazda RX-7 (Turbo) (1993-95)
Mercedes C 63 AMG (1995-97)
Porsche 911 (996 chassis) (1998-2005)
Boxster S (2005-08)
Cayman S (2006-08)

Eccentric · 08-12-2010, 06:26 PM

i always found the 370Z to compare nicely- not familiar with the different classes, but what class is that in?

esqu1re · 08-12-2010, 08:48 PM

Should be A stock as well as it gives the cayman s and M coupe a run for its money.

Serious · 08-12-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by esqu1re

Should be A stock as well as it gives the cayman s and M coupe a run for its money.

it's in C stock.

autoX classifications mean nothing.

esqu1re · 08-12-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Serious

it's in C stock.

autoX classifications mean nothing.

Wow. I would not have expected such a low class.

3002 tii · 08-12-2010, 10:28 PM

eccentric - just curious how old are you that you consider yourself "young"?

Eccentric · 08-12-2010, 10:58 PM

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eccentric - just curious how old are you that you consider yourself "young"?

18 hbu?

3002 tii · 08-12-2010, 11:29 PM

A young 28

Z4mc and r8? That's pretty much my dream garage with the boxster s missing, gotta have one vert right?

Eccentric · 08-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Haha of course! But ill one up the boxster s and say go for the Boxster Spyder. That car is so sexy

Also, the R8 is my dad's

b0bab0i · 08-12-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trev

With driver's of similar talent anything in SCCA's A Stock class is an even match. Anything lower & you should be ashamed of yourself. Anything higher then your either a driving God! or they've run out of talent

2010 A-Stock Classification:
BMW M3 (E90 chassis) (2008-10)
Z4 M Coupe & Roadster (2006-08)
Chevrolet Corvette (C5 chassis, non-Z06) (1997-2004)
Lexus IS F (2008-10)
Lotus Esprit Turbo (1996-2004)
Mazda RX-7 (Turbo) (1993-95)
Mercedes C 63 AMG (1995-97)
Porsche 911 (996 chassis) (1998-2005)
Boxster S (2005-08)
Cayman S (2006-08)

Didn't know they made C63's in 95-97

Its crazy how Rx7's are 17 years old and still keep up with modern cars. I guess thats a reason why my brother has one.

r4gs · 08-12-2010, 11:41 PM

i'd say the hyundai genesis 3.8, nissan 370z, porsche cayman s, audi tt-s and mercedes slk 55 amg. american muscle wise (and there are tons of them around), mustang gt, camaro ss and challenger srt8. all would be pretty even with the M coupe, but with significantly different characteristics.

3002 tii · 08-12-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric

Haha of course! But ill one up the boxster s and say go for the Boxster Spyder. That car is so sexy

Also, the R8 is my dad's

Awesome car but totally not practical but i guess none of those 3 really are. Make sure to hit up local CCA auto-x events!

Eccentric · 08-13-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbedown

Awesome car but totally not practical but i guess none of those 3 really are. Make sure to hit up local CCA auto-x events!

I cant wait to go to my first auto x! Should be an amazing learning experience.

what do you guys think about the SLK55 amg? Personally, i find all SLKs girly but the SLK55 has some nice performance #'s

epbrown · 08-13-2010, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric

I cant wait to go to my first auto x! Should be an amazing learning experience.

what do you guys think about the SLK55 amg? Personally, i find all SLKs girly but the SLK55 has some nice performance #'s

The first SLK was the girliest car I've seen since the Nissan Pulsar, but I quite like the 2nd generation. The AMG division's insistence on automatic transmissions no matter how sporty the car made the SLK55 a no-go for me.

ZM4000 · 08-13-2010, 06:45 AM

YEP for me to.
Audi TT-s is no competition had a race against one with my Z4MR he had no chance at all wasnt even close.
The Focus RS 500 should be interesting even if it's still a cheap ford

Eccentric · 08-13-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ZM4000

YEP for me to.
Audi TT-s is no competition had a race against one with my Z4MR he had no chance at all wasnt even close.
The Focus RS 500 should be interesting even if it's still a cheap ford

That Focus RS is the only front wheel drive car i'd purchase at this point. Its just too sexy. Well that and the Abarth 500.. Both of which are not available in the us

And theres something that just doesnt feel right about the SLK. It sounds nasty, but every time i see one i can't help but think that its a wannabe SL63 AMG. just my opinion

jragan · 08-13-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ZM4000

YEP for me to.
Audi TT-s is no competition had a race against one with my Z4MR he had no chance at all wasnt even close.
The Focus RS 500 should be interesting even if it's still a cheap ford

The TTRS coming to our shores very soon is testing faster than the 987.2CS. It's on my short list of "next cars".

ZM4000 · 08-16-2010, 06:49 AM

the TTRS is a great looking and performance car.
The RS 500 is also a good racing car should be close race too
The focus RS dont know 300bhp....
The Z3M

dont forget about the Z3M

08-12-2010, 04:45 PM	#1
Eccentric Lieutenant 51 Rep 576 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In a van, down by the river. iTrader: (0)	BMW Competitors Being a young guy in an M Coupe, people try to race me all the time. I've had everything from a 370Z, to a C5 vette, and it just got me thinking about the perfect rival for our car. I know the Caymans and Boxsters present an immediate first choice, but i've never seen anyone try to race one which makes me think that the old-rich-guy persona of those P-Cars puts them in a different category. What are your thoughts? In a cinematically perfect situation, which car would you picture dueling with a Z4 M on the backroads?
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08-12-2010, 05:35 PM	#2
chickdr Lieutenant Colonel 140 Rep 1,991 Posts Drives: 2006 M Roadster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buford, GA iTrader: (0)	Boxster S / Cayman S for an ///MC/R. Boxster / Cayman for an si
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08-12-2010, 06:03 PM	#3
Eccentric Lieutenant 51 Rep 576 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In a van, down by the river. iTrader: (0)	lol predictable..
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08-12-2010, 06:21 PM	#5
Trev Private First Class 5 Rep 108 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland Oregon iTrader: (0)	With driver's of similar talent anything in SCCA's A Stock class is an even match. Anything lower & you should be ashamed of yourself. Anything higher then your either a driving God! or they've run out of talent 2010 A-Stock Classification: BMW M3 (E90 chassis) (2008-10) Z4 M Coupe & Roadster (2006-08) Chevrolet Corvette (C5 chassis, non-Z06) (1997-2004) Lexus IS F (2008-10) Lotus Esprit Turbo (1996-2004) Mazda RX-7 (Turbo) (1993-95) Mercedes C 63 AMG (1995-97) Porsche 911 (996 chassis) (1998-2005) Boxster S (2005-08) Cayman S (2006-08)
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08-12-2010, 06:26 PM	#6
Eccentric Lieutenant 51 Rep 576 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In a van, down by the river. iTrader: (0)	i always found the 370Z to compare nicely- not familiar with the different classes, but what class is that in?
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08-12-2010, 08:48 PM	#7
esqu1re Lieutenant Colonel 44 Rep 1,855 Posts Drives: M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	Should be A stock as well as it gives the cayman s and M coupe a run for its money. __________________ ///M Coupe: RPI Scoop, OE Strut, CDV, Volk RE30, SS Brake Lines, Stromung Exhaust
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3002 tii Lieutenant General 2288 Rep 12,565 Posts Drives: Z4 M, X5, GX460 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (99) Garage List F15 X5 xDrive35i [8.75] E86 Z4 M [10.00] F10 550i (Retired) [9.17] F25 X3 xDrive35i (R ... [9.43] E82 135is (Retired) [9.50] E85 Z4 M (Retired) [9.41] E90 328i xDrive (Re ... [9.25] E86 Z4 3.0si (Retired) [9.24]	A young 28 Z4mc and r8? That's pretty much my dream garage with the boxster s missing, gotta have one vert right? __________________ Follow for latest mods
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Eccentric Lieutenant 51 Rep 576 Posts Drives: Interlagos Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In a van, down by the river. iTrader: (0)	Haha of course! But ill one up the boxster s and say go for the Boxster Spyder. That car is so sexy Also, the R8 is my dad's
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r4gs Viper Driver 36 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: F-16 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Singapore iTrader: (2)	i'd say the hyundai genesis 3.8, nissan 370z, porsche cayman s, audi tt-s and mercedes slk 55 amg. american muscle wise (and there are tons of them around), mustang gt, camaro ss and challenger srt8. all would be pretty even with the M coupe, but with significantly different characteristics.
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ZM4000 Private First Class 9 Rep 123 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Luxembourg iTrader: (0)	YEP for me to. Audi TT-s is no competition had a race against one with my Z4MR he had no chance at all wasnt even close. The Focus RS 500 should be interesting even if it's still a cheap ford
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ZM4000 Private First Class 9 Rep 123 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Luxembourg iTrader: (0)	the TTRS is a great looking and performance car. The RS 500 is also a good racing car should be close race too The focus RS dont know 300bhp.... The Z3M dont forget about the Z3M
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