Wheel Studs

[Kgolf31]

Anyone have these installed and can give me insight?

Bimmerworld, Turner, Vorshlag, TCK all have their variants of the studs...just don't know who I should go with (Probably bimmerworld or vorshlag for money reasons).

I figured it would make my life easy when it comes to swapping wheels every weekend basically...and I think they look awesome.

Opinions?

[3002 tii]

I went with Turner after reading many positive reviews from club racers, not to mention TMS uses ARP studs. It's about time to get a new set, will most likely go 75mm this time.

[antennahead]

I've been looking at doing a conversion as well, and have been trying to find out what length studs to use for a regular "closed end" nut......... 75mm is most likely too long for that. Most sell the conversions, from what I can gather, with open end lug nuts, so getting the length exactly right for a closed end nut is not a worry. Anyone know what length is needed for a "no spacer" situation? I'm going to go with the Apex EC-7 wheel when it's released very soon, 18x8.5 ET35 front and 18x9.5 ET22 rear.

John

[seank]

I can't believe people own cars without studs, but I guess if you neveR take your wheels off you would never notice. I have taken my wheels off 4 times in 3 weeks.

Buy them and never look back. BTW: I have had many from many manufacturers and have never noticed a difference.

[ZStig]

the one annoying thing is that with my long studs and open lug nuts, I can't use the x style lug wrench because its too shallow. I liked using it before because you can spin it in your hand very quickly as opposed to a big torque wrench with a socket on it. Time to take the socket to the welder and join it to the x-style lug wrench =)

oh, and I'm using the turner kit.

I take my wheels on and off seemingly weekly, sometimes more. Tuning the suspension, fixing the "tuned" suspension, swapping wheels, brake jobs, cleaning, and shit like that

[prodigal_m]

I too can't believe that some of you are running autox/track events without studs. It makes life so much easier. I've been using the TMS 75mm for the past few years and I have no reason to complain.

[kklin]

Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

the one annoying thing is that with my long studs and open lug nuts, I can't use the x style lug wrench because its too shallow. I liked using it before because you can spin it in your hand very quickly as opposed to a big torque wrench with a socket on it. Time to take the socket to the welder and join it to the x-style lug wrench =)

I use a cordless impact wrench, breaker bar, and torque wrench. Do not use a torque wrench to break loose nuts - I did this once long ago and broke the wrench.

If you get an impact wrench, don't bother getting a impact socket. The walls of mine were too thick and did not fit inside my wheel. Just get a Craftsman - if it breaks, you just get a free replacement (I've done this).

[kklin]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Anyone have these installed and can give me insight?

Bimmerworld, Turner, Vorshlag, TCK all have their variants of the studs...just don't know who I should go with (Probably bimmerworld or vorshlag for money reasons).

I figured it would make my life easy when it comes to swapping wheels every weekend basically...and I think they look awesome.

Opinions?

Wheel studs are the very first modification to my car per kklin's Z4 M Coupe for SCCA BSP (road tire). I've had TC Klines on my E36 (I cheaped out and only bought fronts). Went with 75mm Vorshlag on all four corners this time (also ordered their stud installation kit) as I am (still) in line for getting AST 4150s from them.

I am about to go to 275mm rear Star Specs so will now also need a spacer in the rear. Studs make tire changes less of a necessary PITA. Bolts are a unnecessary PITA.

You probably can't go wrong with any of your manufacturers above. I usually buy two extra lugs so if I lose one, I still have matching lugs.

[Kgolf31]

Is 75mm enough for stock wheels, meaning they won't be too long to short for front/rears

[inTgr8r]

75 is fine up to a 12mm spacer.

[gtMc]

This is a great idea. Scale of 1-10 with an oil change bieng a 2 and a valve adjustment bieng an 8, where does difficulty of installing these fall?

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by gtMc

This is a great idea. Scale of 1-10 with an oil change bieng a 2 and a valve adjustment bieng an 8, where does difficulty of installing these fall?

2.5

=)

[inTgr8r]

How about -5

....all you do is thread it into the hole.

[gtMc]

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

2.5

=)

in.

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

How about -5

....all you do is thread it into the hole.

True, I just factored in annoyance of having to jack up all 4 sides lol.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

True, I just factored in annoyance of having to jack up all 4 sides lol.

That's true. I keep forgetting how spoiled I am to have a lift.
....although you could probably do them one at a time without jacking or removing wheels.

[kklin]

Originally Posted by gtMc

This is a great idea. Scale of 1-10 with an oil change bieng a 2 and a valve adjustment bieng an 8, where does difficulty of installing these fall?

I've never done oil change or valve adjustment myself - hah! I just go to Bimmerworks.com.

I would say installing studs is slightly more involved than performing a tire change. Vorshlag's instructions here - http://www.vorshlag.com/documents/in...it_install.pdf. They also sell a small kit with anti-seize, wrench and I forget what else.

[kklin]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Is 75mm enough for stock wheels, meaning they won't be too long to short for front/rears

I think 75mm will probably serve you well.

Fortunately for you, one of my rear Apex wheels broke last week at an autocross incident, so I currently have a mix of wheels on my car while waiting for the replacement. I took reference photos of both for you and posted here.

[gtMc]

Originally Posted by kklin

I think 75mm will probably serve you well.

Fortunately for you, one of my rear Apex wheels broke last week at an autocross incident, so I currently have a mix of wheels on my car while waiting for the replacement. I took reference photos of both for you and posted here.

Just read that thread. Great info and pictures. Learning a lot. Kgolf did u decide yet on what size and brand for oem wheels / stock setup? 75mm does look good so far.

[Kgolf31]

75mm is going to be the size I'm going to get for sure. I think I'll go Vorshlag. They have everything I need: 5.5 mm, loctite, anti-seize.

Thanks guys.

[kklin]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

75mm is going to be the size I'm going to get for sure. I think I'll go Vorshlag. They have everything I need: 5.5 mm, loctite, anti-seize.

Thanks guys.

That was my thinking too. I did left sides one day and let it sit on stands and then did right sides the next. So plan your weekend accordingly.

[gtMc]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

75mm is going to be the size I'm going to get for sure. I think I'll go Vorshlag. They have everything I need: 5.5 mm, loctite, anti-seize.

Thanks guys.

ok, thanks.

Originally Posted by kklin

That was my thinking too. I did left sides one day and let it sit on stands and then did right sides the next. So plan your weekend accordingly.

interesting. good thought here on the process. which leads me to ask, is this a reversible mod?