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11-01-2012, 02:16 PM | #1 |
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clutch stop - wow!
I know I'm preaching to the choir for many of you, but if you are still putting off doing this minor, inexpensive, simple modification... just do it!
After letting the idea slip for several months, I finally took a moment to replace my clutch stop with the little beauty below. I cannot believe how such a subtle adjustment to the ergonomics of the cockpit can so dramatically improve the driving experience! Shifts are slick as goose poop and virtually instantaneous (no rev drops, etc.). edit - It occurs to me that this solves the core issue that was preventing me from seriously considering an SSK. I easily shift with the stock throw but I was concerned that an SSK benefit would be hampered by the free clutch action and not provide the improvement I was paying for. Now there is no free play... and maybe it's an excuse to reconsider the SSK. In a while though... this is fun all by itself. I bought mine here (ebay link below) and actually swapped a couple of emails with the vendor. This is a well crafted product, a breeze to screw in, and IMHO an essential mod. http://www.ebay.com/itm/230820559306...84.m1497.l2649 Last edited by EenyBear; 11-01-2012 at 03:43 PM.. |
11-01-2012, 02:24 PM | #2 |
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yup... works great.
One thing to watch for is setting the stopper trip point to high for the clutch arm switch. In hot weather things seem to change a bit & it can be difficult to engage the switch to enable the starter motor. ...there are other fixes for relocating the magnetic switch to allow for more stopper adjustment.
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11-01-2012, 02:40 PM | #3 |
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Thanks for posting. I didn't even know the Z had an adjustable stop available. It's on my ebay watchlist now for my next round of goodies
Been driving manuals for over 30 years with a couple million miles under my belt. I'm already smooth as butter but if this helps make me smooth as goose poop I'm all over it. |
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11-01-2012, 02:50 PM | #4 | |
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I was in GRID for autox and I couldn't start the car...I had to unscrew it in order to start it back up. |
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11-01-2012, 06:04 PM | #6 | |
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Agreed. I just screwed it in then backed it out a quarter/half turn at a time and kept trying to start the car. As soon as I could start it, I screwed it back in a turn or so to be safe and locked down the nut. |
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11-01-2012, 06:42 PM | #7 |
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yeah, and if you think about it, you're potentially not fully engaging the clutch each time you shift when its like that
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11-01-2012, 06:43 PM | #8 |
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Yep that clutch stop (made by pickyeater334) has been discussed a few times, definitely recommended mod.
Previous thread: http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=503837 To adjust it you don't need to start the car. Simply put your key in the On position, then depress the clutch. You'll hear a CLICK when the relay engages, that's the highest clutch point that the car will start, adjust your clutch stop to be just past that point and you're golden. Also as mentioned previously, make sure that after this mod you always depress the clutch all the way to the floor before shifting so you don't beat up your synchros.
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11-01-2012, 07:04 PM | #10 |
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I was thinking how clutch stop effect the engagement during shifting. Just order one. Not a big deal if I don't like it.
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11-01-2012, 07:20 PM | #11 |
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I installed the BMS Short Throw Clutch Stop on my wife's 335is Coupe shortly after it was redelivered and we both liked the difference. I have been thinking about this for my Z4MR but wasn't sure where to get it. I just ordered one!
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11-01-2012, 08:43 PM | #12 | |
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The only concern is that you shift past that point too, so that's why if you do the clutch stop you have to make sure you put the pedal to the floor before shifting. I had to consciously teach myself to do this.
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11-01-2012, 08:50 PM | #13 |
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A warning to anyone with the CDV delete... My tranny grenaded in my 335i a month after doing the delete. ~15,000 miles on it.
It could be 110% coincidence, but that scared me off. |
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11-01-2012, 11:08 PM | #14 |
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11-01-2012, 11:13 PM | #16 | |
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Needless to say, I have mine at the perfect amount...It's been through 2 years of WOT shifts at auto-x and a track day...There is nothing to worry about. |
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11-01-2012, 11:42 PM | #19 | |
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Replace and adjust, you can keep the key in the ignition and keep testing to either get it just barely past the click (my preference) or farther in (some prefer having more play).
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11-02-2012, 12:01 AM | #20 |
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i have just a little bit more play in my clutchstop, like beta said, its odd having to teach yourself to put the clutch in all the way before shifting. When you have all that play, you dont have to be fully depressed to be fully in, the clutch stop completely curbs this, meaning you need to be conscious about being fully depressed.
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11-02-2012, 12:04 AM | #21 | |
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Great for teaching a beginner to drive a manual transmission but quite irritating for a seasoned vet. |
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11-02-2012, 07:12 AM | #22 | ||
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Anyways yeah it was pure coincidence, but damn! What happened is it would never shift into 1st ever unless you put it in 2nd first, but then 2nd gear started popping out of gear. BMW was super nice about it and gave me a brand new 335i for a loaner. Deleting my CDV tomorrow. |
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