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      05-21-2018, 11:28 AM   #1
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2007 Z4 M Coupe

Putting out feelers on an asking price for an Imola red on red 2007 Z4 M Coupe with under 4000 miles. Thoughts on asking price?
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      05-21-2018, 12:45 PM   #2
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Are you buying or selling? I would say around 35-40k for that car.
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      05-21-2018, 01:11 PM   #3
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Are you buying or selling? I would say around 35-40k for that car.
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      05-21-2018, 02:08 PM   #4
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I recently was in the market for a MC. Low to mid 40s is about right. Red on red might be a bit much for most folks but you just need one person to want it.
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I'm more curious about all the OTHER goodies in that garage.....issat a '70 Boss 302?
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      05-21-2018, 04:33 PM   #7
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I remember this car from Calgary. Sold for around $40000 cdn. Then sold to Toronto area collector - now Edmonton. Its done more shipping miles than driving lol.
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      05-21-2018, 05:25 PM   #8
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e36 M3 Lightweight on the rack? There's a lot of juicy stuff going on in that garage.....
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Looks like you have room to store it. Stash it for a few more years and pull it out when these cars go ballistic. If I were selling it now I'd ask $48K US firm.
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Nope.... It only sold for $55k new....

NADA.com estimate $32,500 for clean retail sale price(which allows an extra $8,500 for the low mileage). I think that is a bit low as some will pay crazy prices for like new cars. My 06 MR with 20k prices out at $22k private party on NADA. Would I take that? No, but I wouldn't think more than $25k would be doable even with my pristine example.

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Agree, given msrp of 55k, 10 years isn’t enough to juice up the price that much. Tough to price because anyone buying this presumably is going to keep as garage queen collectors item and how many of those types (who appreciate the rarity of this car) exist? Most others would rather save 10k and just find a good “low mileage” example.

My gut says $42 on high end and $37 is seller is trying to move it quick. May as well price high and see if there’s any bites!
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      05-22-2018, 02:12 PM   #12
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From the looks of that garage, I doubt he's in a rush to sell. Can't be but a handful left with that kind of mileage. Personally I wouldn't take less than 45k.
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Obviously not the same as a private sale, but Enthusiast Auto Group will give you an idea of where the high end is.

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?f...1D=39&1574_0=1

Of course, they have nothing close to 4K. If they did, I'm sure they would price it at > $55K based on the two coupes in the link above.
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Obviously not the same as a private sale, but Enthusiast Auto Group will give you an idea of where the high end is.

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?f...1D=39&1574_0=1

Of course, they have nothing close to 4K. If they did, I'm sure they would price it at > $55K based on the two coupes in the link above.
EAG is crazy. Anyone paying those prices deserves to be ripped off.
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EAG is crazy. Anyone paying those prices deserves to be ripped off.
Yeah, I'm well-versed in the EAG debate from M5Board.com. They are a very polarizing company, with those who abhor them (and think they are snatching up pristine BMW Ms that would otherwise be sold at lower cost to another enthusiast by the owner) and those who love them (and don't mind paying a premium for one-stop shopping for a pristine, well-sorted M). They have certainly thrived over the years, so their business model must be working.

(Disclaimer - I have never bought a car from them; it's just fun browsing their inventory.)
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Obviously not the same as a private sale, but Enthusiast Auto Group will give you an idea of where the high end is.

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?f...1D=39&1574_0=1

Of course, they have nothing close to 4K. If they did, I'm sure they would price it at > $55K based on the two coupes in the link above.
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EAG is crazy. Anyone paying those prices deserves to be ripped off.
Yeah, I'm well-versed in the EAG debate from M5Board.com. They are a very polarizing company, with those who abhor them (and think they are snatching up pristine BMW Ms that would otherwise be sold at lower cost to another enthusiast by the owner) and those who love them (and don't mind paying a premium for one-stop shopping for a pristine, well-sorted M). They have certainly thrived over the years, so their business model must be working.

(Disclaimer - I have never bought a car from them; it's just fun browsing their inventory.)
Met the owner of EAG this past weekend at The Vintage in Asheville, North Carolina (my first time attending).

EAG drove three cars from Cincinnati to Hot Springs, North Carolina. An E30 Touring, E28 M5 and an E31 850CSi.

Spent time going over the E31 and they have extensive records with pictures from the previous owner.

Then they list recommended maintenance and repairs. Then list and document (with pictures) each part that is removed with condition and it's replacement. Extremely thorough process as they don't leave a stone unturned.

It gives a prospective owner peace of mind but that does come at a premium cost. The 850CSi was just sitting and he invited me to start it and then wanted me to hear the Bluetooth the previous owner had installed that was so clean it was easy to miss.

He didn't treat the cars like they are museum pieces and the 850CSi hadn't been gone through at their shop, yet it was seriously clean and idled with its noted double sound.

Their pricing can be viewed as crazy to someone that just wants a nice M car but for those that want an M car that has either been maintained or brought up to a very high level, EAG can be a one stop shop.

And I am not an EAG customer, just wanted to see if they were going approachable or cool, and they were very nice and forthcoming with any question asked.

They had one customer there and he was very happy.

I ball-parked the 850CSi at $125,000-$200,000 and after a few hours I finally got to asked him the question and he said that it would be priced between $150,000-$200,000. It's been relayed to them it's a one of one by BMW NA.

It's a lot of money but up until recently they have been undervalued like a few certain M cars, but it is one of 225, built my BMW Motorsport, V12 with a 6-speed manual, pillar less GT coupe. They have an excellent example and will charge serious money for it but you also know exactly what you are getting.
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It's funny, the only ones you'll find complaining about EAG have never done business with them. Ask anyone who has - and I've purchased an E39 M5 from Eric in the past - and the praise is universal. Yes, nothing they sell is cheap, but it's all very carefully vetted, and fully gone through and every single maintenance item brought up to snuff before it hits their lot. You get what you pay for. I'd do business with Eric again in a heartbeat.
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It's funny, the only ones you'll find complaining about EAG have never done business with them. Ask anyone who has - and I've purchased an E39 M5 from Eric in the past - and the praise is universal. Yes, nothing they sell is cheap, but it's all very carefully vetted, and fully gone through and every single maintenance item brought up to snuff before it hits their lot. You get what you pay for. I'd do business with Eric again in a heartbeat.
I used to think EAG was ok and didn’t care about their pricing; it’s a free market and they’re welcome to do as they please. They only lost credibility when they apparently bought someone’s hard driven track car, de-modded it and listed the car for $20k more advertising as a bone stock / garage queen / never been tracked m3...

After that you a lot of folks started questioning the history of their cars.
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It's funny, the only ones you'll find complaining about EAG have never done business with them. Ask anyone who has - and I've purchased an E39 M5 from Eric in the past - and the praise is universal. Yes, nothing they sell is cheap, but it's all very carefully vetted, and fully gone through and every single maintenance item brought up to snuff before it hits their lot. You get what you pay for. I'd do business with Eric again in a heartbeat.
Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. What I am saying is the cars are priced WAY over market value. If someone wants to pay that, fine. It is a free market. I can tell you my 06 Z4MR is every bit as nice (same options too) as this car on their site and has less miles http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?i...orm_display=51. NADA lists my cars value at $23,500 retail....

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NADA.com estimate $32,500 for clean retail sale price(which allows an extra $8,500 for the low mileage). I think that is a bit low as some will pay crazy prices for like new cars. My 06 MR with 20k prices out at $22k private party on NADA. Would I take that? No, but I wouldn't think more than $25k would be doable even with my pristine example.
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I can tell you my 06 Z4MR is every bit as nice (same options too) as this car on their site and has less miles http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?i...orm_display=51. NADA lists my cars value at $23,500 retail....
I can’t understand how some enthusiasts in a niche car market still confidently and vehemently place NADA values on these cars and call it accurate.

However, there’s no denying that NADA values M Roadsters more accurately. Simply put, the Coupe and Roader markets are just not the same. You lost me the minute you mentioned that a 4K mile imola/imola Z4M coupe is worth mid 30’s.

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I think $45k is a reasonable price for that car with really low miles. Now, the Z3M's are a bit overpriced in EAG.
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