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      12-04-2011, 02:55 PM   #111
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You cant run meth/water injection on your car as you need an air to Air intercooler..... you for you'd have to plumb it directly to your intake manifold which would mean youd need completely new Meth injection tune which is a completely different game......
I've always been under the assumption that a direct port system is a much better option, and you avoid certain cylinders running leaner than others. You can tune much more reliably as a result.
It means tapping into that lovely intake manifold of yours, however once it's done, it's done.

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I've always been under the assumption that a direct port system is a much better option, and you avoid certain cylinders running leaner than others. You can tune much more reliably as a result.
It means tapping into that lovely intake manifold of yours, however once it's done, it's done.

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its reaaaalllyy not that simple ;-)
yeah this way is great but it changes the ball game... when you inject meth mixed with water this close to the intake i.e AT the manifold your using it as fuel..... when you use it as fuel you need a tune that takes account of that... when you need a tune to take account of the meth you always have to run meth, so if your running at WOT on a meth dependant tune, and say the meth runs out, or the pump fails you engine will most like det to fuck and blow.....

the way we use meth/water is to spray well away from the intake so by the time its got to the intake mani all is doing is cooling charge... this way we dont need any new tune, its till the stock s/c tune but the ecu is seeing a icey cool intake charge giving up more time and more power/Tq... if out meth tank runs dry??? no probs the car just carries on as normal..... so basically for us intercooled guys its like running in 5 deg c chilly winters yet in reality the outside temp could be 30 deg C.....

meth dependant tunes are a complete ballache...... so theirs 2 ways, the cooling charge temp way... or using it as a fuel suppliment...... using it as a charge cooler is a simply bolt in job.........tuning for meth is great on a race car or a car that can switch tunes but on a single tune car.... its way to risky imo..... To use meth as a charge cooler not a fuel you need an Air to Air intercooler.....you need to spray as far from the intake manifold as possible on the outlet side of the intercooler......it also jet steams your engine internals and keep them superclean as bythe time its reached the intake is just vapour....

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I appreciate what your saying, but the OP doesn't have a myriad of options if he wants to run a water/meth system. Anyone spending this type of $$$ is going to be super anal about everything. There'll be failsafes in place and they will always be aware of his/her fluid levels. No one is re-inventibg the wheel here, however getting a decent tune is the real question. I'm a huge fan of these systems since having it on my built B20 Volvo 142.
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Let him get the car running well first before complicating things with meth
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Is that a mirror on the wall or do you have another AW Z4 stashed....
It's not a mirror buddy that is the other G-Power monster in there

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its reaaaalllyy not that simple ;-)
yeah this way is great but it changes the ball game... when you inject meth mixed with water this close to the intake i.e AT the manifold your using it as fuel..... when you use it as fuel you need a tune that takes account of that... when you need a tune to take account of the meth you always have to run meth, so if your running at WOT on a meth dependant tune, and say the meth runs out, or the pump fails you engine will most like det to fuck and blow.....

the way we use meth/water is to spray well away from the intake so by the time its got to the intake mani all is doing is cooling charge... this way we dont need any new tune, its till the stock s/c tune but the ecu is seeing a icey cool intake charge giving up more time and more power/Tq... if out meth tank runs dry??? no probs the car just carries on as normal..... so basically for us intercooled guys its like running in 5 deg c chilly winters yet in reality the outside temp could be 30 deg C.....

meth dependant tunes are a complete ballache...... so theirs 2 ways, the cooling charge temp way... or using it as a fuel suppliment...... using it as a charge cooler is a simply bolt in job.........tuning for meth is great on a race car or a car that can switch tunes but on a single tune car.... its way to risky imo..... To use meth as a charge cooler not a fuel you need an Air to Air intercooler.....you need to spray as far from the intake manifold as possible on the outlet side of the intercooler......it also jet steams your engine internals and keep them superclean as bythe time its reached the intake is just vapour....

I finally got what you meant to use this system. actually if asked me I would run it like you guys but unfortunately I dont have that air intercooler .



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I appreciate what your saying, but the OP doesn't have a myriad of options if he wants to run a water/meth system. Anyone spending this type of $$$ is going to be super anal about everything. There'll be failsafes in place and they will always be aware of his/her fluid levels. No one is re-inventibg the wheel here, however getting a decent tune is the real question. I'm a huge fan of these systems since having it on my built B20 Volvo 142.
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Let him get the car running well first before complicating things with meth
anyway as what Roffle Waffle said let me run the car well then I'll think how to get that systems on
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I appreciate what your saying, but the OP doesn't have a myriad of options if he wants to run a water/meth system. Anyone spending this type of $$$ is going to be super anal about everything. There'll be failsafes in place and they will always be aware of his/her fluid levels. No one is re-inventibg the wheel here, however getting a decent tune is the real question. I'm a huge fan of these systems since having it on my built B20 Volvo 142.
No ones trying to reinvent the wheel..... You need an air to air intercooler for this to work properly and as water/meth is meant to be used.... Simple as that :-)
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Let him get the car running well first before complicating things with meth
Op asked the question about meth, im explaining his options :-)
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its reaaaalllyy not that simple ;-)
yeah this way is great but it changes the ball game... when you inject meth mixed with water this close to the intake i.e AT the manifold your using it as fuel..... when you use it as fuel you need a tune that takes account of that... when you need a tune to take account of the meth you always have to run meth, so if your running at WOT on a meth dependant tune, and say the meth runs out, or the pump fails you engine will most like det to fuck and blow.....

the way we use meth/water is to spray well away from the intake so by the time its got to the intake mani all is doing is cooling charge... this way we dont need any new tune, its till the stock s/c tune but the ecu is seeing a icey cool intake charge giving up more time and more power/Tq... if out meth tank runs dry??? no probs the car just carries on as normal..... so basically for us intercooled guys its like running in 5 deg c chilly winters yet in reality the outside temp could be 30 deg C.....

meth dependant tunes are a complete ballache...... so theirs 2 ways, the cooling charge temp way... or using it as a fuel suppliment...... using it as a charge cooler is a simply bolt in job.........tuning for meth is great on a race car or a car that can switch tunes but on a single tune car.... its way to risky imo..... To use meth as a charge cooler not a fuel you need an Air to Air intercooler.....you need to spray as far from the intake manifold as possible on the outlet side of the intercooler......it also jet steams your engine internals and keep them superclean as bythe time its reached the intake is just vapour....

I finally got what you meant to use this system. actually if asked me I would run it like you guys but unfortunately I dont have that air intercooler .



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I appreciate what your saying, but the OP doesn't have a myriad of options if he wants to run a water/meth system. Anyone spending this type of $$$ is going to be super anal about everything. There'll be failsafes in place and they will always be aware of his/her fluid levels. No one is re-inventibg the wheel here, however getting a decent tune is the real question. I'm a huge fan of these systems since having it on my built B20 Volvo 142.
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Let him get the car running well first before complicating things with meth
anyway as what Roffle Waffle said let me run the car well then I'll think
how to get that systems on
Glad you understand what im saying ;-)
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Glad you understand what im saying ;-)
you made me disappointed becoz it's a whole headache for me without the air intercooler. really interested to get that system but I might have failure and that could harm the engine very hard and also may coz engine blown and I really love this car dont wanna make stupid thing looking for power then I'll loose everything. if I couldnt make it safe I won't even think about it.
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guys wanna ask you did anybody change his clutch to after market one which hold the power you guys make. with a high TQ I could imagine the OEM clutch won't hold will slip. Yesterday I gave the car hard test and felt stupid actually that time . I push the car hard in the 3er Gear and the clutch did slip I just hate the smell of the clutch burning. I'll be going for a list of thing I'm going to upgrade:
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This is the most important thing I'll change. maybe I'll go with 4.10 or 3.91 diff. other thing like Coilovers and Brake system.
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I don't have any clutch issues, and neither does anyone else with this kit on this forum. You probably have a little more torque than us, but a stock clutch that has been used without abuse should still be able to handle things . Use the opportunity to upgrade to a stronger clutch AND a lightweight flywheel. I haven't researched the options yet, so I can't make reccomendations

I was also considering upgrading my diff, but it will make traction even worse in 1st gear
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guys wanna ask you did anybody change his clutch to after market one which hold the power you guys make. with a high TQ I could imagine the OEM clutch won't hold will slip. Yesterday I gave the car hard test and felt stupid actually that time . I push the car hard in the 3er Gear and the clutch did slip I just hate the smell of the clutch burning. I'll be going for a list of thing I'm going to upgrade:
1.Fuel Pump.
2.Clutch.
3.Coils.

This is the most important thing I'll change. maybe I'll go with 4.10 or 3.91 diff. other thing like Coilovers and Brake system.
i havent got any clutch slip yet.... but im very forgiving and nice to my drivetrain, i never launch the car, never slip the clutch, never ride the clutch and my pedal bite is still right at the bottom, i feel i have plenty of clutch life left and actually of stock clutches are very good, i really wouldnt suprise me if it needs changing at some point soon however....

Im with you on the fuel pump and coils, i think this is definatly something that should be done, luckily on my low mileage car, its not to much of a big deal but fuel pump wise drop HPF an email... they'll have a complete drop in solution for you and they also have a proper sleeve to allow these to sit in the stock locations....

okada coils are about as good as it gets for our cars but are insanely expensive......

any news from g-power :-)
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I don't have any clutch issues, and neither does anyone else with this kit on this forum. You probably have a little more torque than us, but a stock clutch that has been used without abuse should still be able to handle things . Use the opportunity to upgrade to a stronger clutch AND a lightweight flywheel. I haven't researched the options yet, so I can't make reccomendations

I was also considering upgrading my diff, but it will make traction even worse in 1st gear
for the clutch I'm going with HPF Stage 1 clutch it holds (300whp-700whp) which is enough. I dont think getting a lightweight flywheel is not a good idea becoz like what I heard that if the car has lightweight flywheel the tuner (G-Power) should consider that and tune the car with a flywheel option or so. If you have an experience with this you could tell me if it right or wrong?

I'm already suffering from 1st gear traction even my car has 285 in the rear the car still cant stick and second gear also is almost the same I'll make a video of that. Need a slick tired



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i havent got any clutch slip yet.... but im very forgiving and nice to my drivetrain, i never launch the car, never slip the clutch, never ride the clutch and my pedal bite is still right at the bottom, i feel i have plenty of clutch life left and actually of stock clutches are very good, i really wouldnt suprise me if it needs changing at some point soon however....

Im with you on the fuel pump and coils, i think this is definatly something that should be done, luckily on my low mileage car, its not to much of a big deal but fuel pump wise drop HPF an email... they'll have a complete drop in solution for you and they also have a proper sleeve to allow these to sit in the stock locations....

okada coils are about as good as it gets for our cars but are insanely expensive......

any news from g-power :-)
Beedub, Believe me it's not mileage related when I lost one of the coils my car was in a start up and my car in that time had only 15K which mean 9K in mile. I think Chris from HPF was talking about it becoz it became a serious issue and the coils will fail in our car coed by the high heat. and that what happened when I lost my coil it was summer time. However, we guys who live in the hot countries we face alot of issues that you guys who live in the cold countries. I'll be putting a budget for that coils and others I feels it's a really good things to have them on they just worth it.

I'll post everything new we do
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for the clutch I'm going with HPF Stage 1 clutch it holds (300whp-700whp) which is enough. I dont think getting a lightweight flywheel is not a good idea becoz like what I heard that if the car has lightweight flywheel the tuner (G-Power) should consider that and tune the car with a flywheel option or so. If you have an experience with this you could tell me if it right or wrong?

I'm already suffering from 1st gear traction even my car has 285 in the rear the car still cant stick and second gear also is almost the same I'll make a video of that. Need a slick tired





Beedub, Believe me it's not mileage related when I lost one of the coils my car was in a start up and my car in that time had only 15K which mean 9K in mile. I think Chris from HPF was talking about it becoz it became a serious issue and the coils will fail in our car coed by the high heat. and that what happened when I lost my coil it was summer time. However, we guys who live in the hot countries we face alot of issues that you guys who live in the cold countries. I'll be putting a budget for that coils and others I feels it's a really good things to have them on they just worth it.

I'll post everything new we do
definatly i hear you.... i understand these coils can go at anytime, ill be going for the okada coils if my stock units go down.... until then ill keep my stock unit.... My country is COLD!! lol so i think this helps.... the MAX temp we get is 34 deg C, and this literally only for afew weeks.... if that.

Re the flywheel, email gpower, i think you'l find that they tell you to leave the flywheel well, alone ;-) i certainly wont be doing flywheel upgrades, i would like an uprated stage 1 clutch however and will buy one in and get it shipped over .... still i think i may get another 15k miles from mine..... if im lucky!!

yup traction SUCKS, i get nothing in first, crap in second, by thirds its hooking up...... if you leave Traction control on, the car goes nowhere, literally nowhere as the stock traction control just kills all power....
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I don't know much about aftermarket flywheels for this specific car. I didn't research it yet, but I don't see how it would affect the tuning...

What kind of tires are you running? 285 is pretty wide! Try lowering the tire pressure to 30PSI, or even 28PSI. Also, an aggressive rear alignment will decrease traction in the back, I'm at -2.5* and I will soon change to stock or even -1* camber in the back
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I don't know much about aftermarket flywheels for this specific car. I didn't research it yet, but I don't see how it would affect the tuning...

What kind of tires are you running? 285 is pretty wide! Try lowering the tire pressure to 30PSI, or even 28PSI. Also, an aggressive rear alignment will decrease traction in the back, I'm at -2.5* and I will soon change to stock or even -1* camber in the back
changing to a lightweight flywheel will 100% change boost characteristics which wont have been tuned for, i.e faster building of boost @ a certain rev range... drop ess an email and let them come back to you ;-)

iron forget all these massively wide tyres, drop in a proper road legal slick, like the ps cups and a 265 section will have MORE than enough for anything your car can throw at it.... downsize to an lightweight 18-19" and revel in much better traction and response, in reality the 19" lightweight options are that good now and as light as the 18s, you can still retain good looks and have a great, responsive vehicle...
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definatly i hear you.... i understand these coils can go at anytime, ill be going for the okada coils if my stock units go down.... until then ill keep my stock unit.... My country is COLD!! lol so i think this helps.... the MAX temp we get is 34 deg C, and this literally only for afew weeks.... if that.

Re the flywheel, email gpower, i think you'l find that they tell you to leave the flywheel well, alone ;-) i certainly wont be doing flywheel upgrades, i would like an uprated stage 1 clutch however and will buy one in and get it shipped over .... still i think i may get another 15k miles from mine..... if im lucky!!

yup traction SUCKS, i get nothing in first, crap in second, by thirds its hooking up...... if you leave Traction control on, the car goes nowhere, literally nowhere as the stock traction control just kills all power....

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I don't know much about aftermarket flywheels for this specific car. I didn't research it yet, but I don't see how it would affect the tuning...

What kind of tires are you running? 285 is pretty wide! Try lowering the tire pressure to 30PSI, or even 28PSI. Also, an aggressive rear alignment will decrease traction in the back, I'm at -2.5* and I will soon change to stock or even -1* camber in the back
I have Nitto INVO and they should do a good job as they evaluated a gripped tires.

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changing to a lightweight flywheel will 100% change boost characteristics which wont have been tuned for, i.e faster building of boost @ a certain rev range... drop ess an email and let them come back to you ;-)

iron forget all these massively wide tyres, drop in a proper road legal slick, like the ps cups and a 265 section will have MORE than enough for anything your car can throw at it....
I'll be going for slicks but after I change the clutch. There will be a huge TQ on the clutch so it makes it worse I'll be loosing it so quickly.

we are working on the list to send it to G-Power.
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how about those updated engine bay pics you promised??? im really looking forward to seeing the finished build :-)
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I have Nitto INVO and they should do a good job as they evaluated a gripped tires.
they SHOULD be good enough, especially that wide and in a hot climate...
Our cars have big traction issues with just moderate power, and its very annoying. Time for widebody....
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      12-07-2011, 03:48 PM   #132
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