RPI (Race Precision Inc.) finally have the scoops for the Mcoupe:)

Brucewonder · 02-24-2008, 12:09 AM

I thought the M scoops would work for non-m??? If there isnt a test mule yet i'll love to be one???

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Originally Posted by Zeddy4Me

From Eloy: If someone with a non M wants to come and let me dyno their cars, CALL me. Do NOT PM me. 562-630-5966

I was at RPI today and spent a good deal of the day there. ANyone with a NON-M Z4 want to help with the R&D on the scoops, contact Eloy directly at the number above. He will custom fab a prototype scoop and test it out... Call him on Monday since he won't be in on Saturday... thats the latest guys..

Zeddy4Me · 02-24-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by teammojo

I thought the M scoops would work for non-m??? If there isnt a test mule yet i'll love to be one???

There isn't yet... Call Eloy and set something up...

BimmerZealot · 02-24-2008, 03:28 PM

He has a DIY K&N Intake so the scoop wouldn't be applicable, I'm trying to find a time to make the 1.5 hr trip but with all this rain I think its gonna have to be next weekend.

RPIpower · 02-25-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by teammojo

I thought the M scoops would work for non-m??? If there isnt a test mule yet i'll love to be one???

You're in OC. What are you waiting for? lol. The guys will thank you.

Z4coupe · 02-25-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

You're in OC. What are you waiting for? lol. The guys will thank you.

Yes we will.

pbdm4k · 02-26-2008, 12:48 PM

Come on non-M fitment!!

Brucewonder · 02-27-2008, 11:01 PM

Just emailed Eloy a couple of days ago...should be getting it installed/test within 2-3 weeks since I'm only available on the weekends

Zeddy4Me · 02-28-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by teammojo

Just emailed Eloy a couple of days ago...should be getting it installed/test within 2-3 weeks since I'm only available on the weekends

RPIpower · 02-28-2008, 11:51 AM

If there is a non-m guy that is able to make it on a weekday, that would be much easier for me and we would be able to get the answer much sooner. The non-M E60 guys are buggin for a scoop also so everything is up for grabs at this time. Either I make more Z4 ones first or I have to start on the development of the non M e60.

Testing for the non-m Z4 will be easy. You purchase a scoop, I dyno. No hp gain, you get refund for the scoop. Expect to be here atleast 2 hours.

Zeddy4Me · 02-29-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

If there is a non-m guy that is able to make it on a weekday, that would be much easier for me and we would be able to get the answer much sooner. The non-M E60 guys are buggin for a scoop also so everything is up for grabs at this time. Either I make more Z4 ones first or I have to start on the development of the non M e60.

Testing for the non-m Z4 will be easy. You purchase a scoop, I dyno. No hp gain, you get refund for the scoop. Expect to be here atleast 2 hours.

Come on guys... !!

BimmerZealot · 02-29-2008, 02:46 AM

Talked to Eloy today, would have went this Friday but have plans so possibly next Friday for me.

Starscream · 02-29-2008, 10:09 PM

anyone have any better pictures?

and has anyone got a black one? I think id prefer the look of "stealth"

mandizzle · 03-01-2008, 03:15 PM

So I made the trip to RPI yesterday to get the much anticipated Z4 airscoop installed on my 3.0i.

A couple problems developed:

The baseline Dyno was unsuccessful because the automatic tranny on my Z wouldn't stay in a single gear for the entire Dyno run. The transmission would automatically downshift during the test which resulted in inaccurate results.

Eloy agreed to go ahead and install the scoop and let me return it if it turns out later that the hp gains are insignificant.

Big bummer! Turns out the scoop that was developed for the Z4M does not fit the same on the standard Z4. There is an interference with the diagonal brace behind the grill that wont allow the scoop to fit properly. (Holes dont line up and the position of the scoop sits off angle because the diagonal brace was about an inch more forward on my vehicle than on the Z4M). Eloy tried his best to tweak the mounting brackets and the scoop to get it to fit properly--- but ultimately, it was obvious the airscoop will not fit the non Z4M.

Not sure if it makes a difference but I have the M bumper conversion on my 3.0i and I have an eary 2003 model. Though I'm pretty certain that the clearances and the build should be the same for the standard bumpers and later models.

I asked if Eloy if he would consider developing a new scoop for the non-M, but he said he would need to have the car for a few days to develop a new one. If there is enough of an interest and a willing donor it may still happen. But for now it looks like we (non M owners) are out of luck.

The day wasn't a total bust because I had the skid plates installed on my M bumper. Fit is right on and the plates work great! I can attest to that because it didn't take but 20 minutes after I left the shop, I scrapped the hell out of the bottom of my bumper while driving out of the driveway of a burrito stand. Love those burritos/ hate the combination of steep driveways and the very low front Z4 bumpers. However, the sound of the metal skid plates scraping concrete was a much better sound than painted plastic.

BimmerZealot · 03-01-2008, 04:16 PM

Oh no, I just checked my Si and realized I have that stupid cross brace too. Doh, that's a real bummer :'(

Reach · 03-01-2008, 09:13 PM

Well, thank you for trying! I hope you had some fun in the process too.

vachss · 03-01-2008, 10:27 PM

Well if Eloy won't make one for the non-M's then that opens the door wide for Teammojo:
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122477.

BimmerZealot · 03-02-2008, 04:25 PM

No one said Eloy wasn't willing to make one, if you read mandizzle's post he said

"I asked if Eloy if he would consider developing a new scoop for the non-M, but he said he would need to have the car for a few days to develop a new one. If there is enough of an interest and a willing donor it may still happen. But for now it looks like we (non M owners) are out of luck."

laidback · 03-02-2008, 07:31 PM

Guys note that the scoops RPI made for the Mcoupe took alot of time and effort...testing for proper airflow, dyno testing and doing this back and forth was very time consuming and expensive...it wouldn't be fair if other guys copy RPI's air scoops... i highly suggest contacting Eloy and giving him a Z4 non M to work on for a few days (just like what i did) so he can properly test the scoop, also on the Z4 M scoops it took alot of prototype scoops just to finish one that will deliver...JMHO

BimmerZealot · 03-02-2008, 08:12 PM

No one is saying it didn't take a lot of time and effort. Personally I wouldn't consider Teammojo's a "copy" at all. Just by looking at the quality, angle, material, etc. its no where up to par with the RPI scoop. I dont consider a home made scoop to be anywhere near encroaching on RPI's territory. If I wasn't an hour and forty minutes away from RPI my car would be there now. Hopefully someone in the OC with a Non-M can be the donor.

Z4coupe · 03-03-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by laidback

Guys note that the scoops RPI made for the Mcoupe took alot of time and effort...testing for proper airflow, dyno testing and doing this back and forth was very time consuming and expensive...it wouldn't be fair if other guys copy RPI's air scoops... i highly suggest contacting Eloy and giving him a Z4 non M to work on for a few days (just like what i did) so he can properly test the scoop, also on the Z4 M scoops it took alot of prototype scoops just to finish one that will deliver...JMHO

Do I need to drive all the way to CA to get this done?

Cmon Im sure this can get done if the car is left there for a few days. Im sure a having the car there would be a big benefit. Whats it gonna take to get this done? Does someone need gas money or me to pay them for the day to drive over there? Shit if you get this done and the it comes out that the gains are simaler to the Ms this will be golden for us all, these cars have no aftermarket, if this pans out and the intrest is there Eloy wont forget about us in the future. Im in Ma if I had to drive 4 hours or more out of my way and take a sick day or a vacation day I would to get it done. Its well worth it IMHO

Z4coupe · 03-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Mybe we can post this on a few other boards to scrounge up intrest in getting a donor car there? Anyone willing to give this an honest shot?

Justincase · 03-03-2008, 07:46 PM

when are they available to ordered and shipped out of CA ? I'm ready

02-24-2008, 03:28 PM	#245
BimmerZealot Major 61 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (2)	He has a DIY K&N Intake so the scoop wouldn't be applicable, I'm trying to find a time to make the 1.5 hr trip but with all this rain I think its gonna have to be next weekend.
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02-26-2008, 12:48 PM	#248
pbdm4k Lieutenant Colonel 75 Rep 1,689 Posts Drives: 2010 335d Join Date: May 2007 Location: North of the Border iTrader: (3)	Come on non-M fitment!! __________________ 2010 BMW 335d "Ha! She wants the D." 2006 VW Jetta 2.5 Once upon a time... '03 VW GTI, '99 Audi A4 1.8TQ, '00 VW Jetta 1.85T, '09 BMW 335i xDrive, '04 BMW Z4 3.0i, '01 Audi TT 1.8T, '04 Volvo S80 2.5T
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02-27-2008, 11:01 PM	#249
Brucewonder Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,541 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 yea boi Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (4)	Just emailed Eloy a couple of days ago...should be getting it installed/test within 2-3 weeks since I'm only available on the weekends __________________ 2011.5 E92 ///M3 SSII/FR
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02-28-2008, 11:51 AM	#251
RPIpower Captain 49 Rep 857 Posts Drives: F97 X3M, G80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	If there is a non-m guy that is able to make it on a weekday, that would be much easier for me and we would be able to get the answer much sooner. The non-M E60 guys are buggin for a scoop also so everything is up for grabs at this time. Either I make more Z4 ones first or I have to start on the development of the non M e60. Testing for the non-m Z4 will be easy. You purchase a scoop, I dyno. No hp gain, you get refund for the scoop. Expect to be here atleast 2 hours.
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02-29-2008, 02:46 AM	#253
BimmerZealot Major 61 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (2)	Talked to Eloy today, would have went this Friday but have plans so possibly next Friday for me.
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02-29-2008, 10:09 PM	#254
Starscream Colonel 135 Rep 2,120 Posts Drives: ///M Roadster + E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Park Ridge NJ + Windermere FL iTrader: (23)	anyone have any better pictures? and has anyone got a black one? I think id prefer the look of "stealth" __________________ Imola Red Roadster
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03-01-2008, 03:15 PM	#255
mandizzle New Member 1 Rep 29 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: So. Cal. iTrader: (0)	Non-M scoop fitment and Dyno Report So I made the trip to RPI yesterday to get the much anticipated Z4 airscoop installed on my 3.0i. A couple problems developed: The baseline Dyno was unsuccessful because the automatic tranny on my Z wouldn't stay in a single gear for the entire Dyno run. The transmission would automatically downshift during the test which resulted in inaccurate results. Eloy agreed to go ahead and install the scoop and let me return it if it turns out later that the hp gains are insignificant. Big bummer! Turns out the scoop that was developed for the Z4M does not fit the same on the standard Z4. There is an interference with the diagonal brace behind the grill that wont allow the scoop to fit properly. (Holes dont line up and the position of the scoop sits off angle because the diagonal brace was about an inch more forward on my vehicle than on the Z4M). Eloy tried his best to tweak the mounting brackets and the scoop to get it to fit properly--- but ultimately, it was obvious the airscoop will not fit the non Z4M. Not sure if it makes a difference but I have the M bumper conversion on my 3.0i and I have an eary 2003 model. Though I'm pretty certain that the clearances and the build should be the same for the standard bumpers and later models. I asked if Eloy if he would consider developing a new scoop for the non-M, but he said he would need to have the car for a few days to develop a new one. If there is enough of an interest and a willing donor it may still happen. But for now it looks like we (non M owners) are out of luck. The day wasn't a total bust because I had the skid plates installed on my M bumper. Fit is right on and the plates work great! I can attest to that because it didn't take but 20 minutes after I left the shop, I scrapped the hell out of the bottom of my bumper while driving out of the driveway of a burrito stand. Love those burritos/ hate the combination of steep driveways and the very low front Z4 bumpers. However, the sound of the metal skid plates scraping concrete was a much better sound than painted plastic.
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03-01-2008, 04:16 PM	#256
BimmerZealot Major 61 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (2)	Oh no, I just checked my Si and realized I have that stupid cross brace too. Doh, that's a real bummer :'(
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03-01-2008, 09:13 PM	#257
Reach gone baby gone 382 Rep 1,052 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Location, Location. iTrader: (0)	Well, thank you for trying! I hope you had some fun in the process too.
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03-01-2008, 10:27 PM	#258
vachss Captain 55 Rep 815 Posts Drives: Z4 Coupe Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ventura County, CA iTrader: (1)	Well if Eloy won't make one for the non-M's then that opens the door wide for Teammojo: http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122477.
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03-02-2008, 04:25 PM	#259
BimmerZealot Major 61 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (2)	No one said Eloy wasn't willing to make one, if you read mandizzle's post he said "I asked if Eloy if he would consider developing a new scoop for the non-M, but he said he would need to have the car for a few days to develop a new one. If there is enough of an interest and a willing donor it may still happen. But for now it looks like we (non M owners) are out of luck."
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03-02-2008, 07:31 PM	#260
laidback Lieutenant Colonel 135 Rep 1,709 Posts Drives: M's Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Guys note that the scoops RPI made for the Mcoupe took alot of time and effort...testing for proper airflow, dyno testing and doing this back and forth was very time consuming and expensive...it wouldn't be fair if other guys copy RPI's air scoops... i highly suggest contacting Eloy and giving him a Z4 non M to work on for a few days (just like what i did) so he can properly test the scoop, also on the Z4 M scoops it took alot of prototype scoops just to finish one that will deliver...JMHO __________________ Live as if you will die tomorrow, but learn as if you will live forever." M.G
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03-02-2008, 08:12 PM	#261
BimmerZealot Major 61 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (2)	No one is saying it didn't take a lot of time and effort. Personally I wouldn't consider Teammojo's a "copy" at all. Just by looking at the quality, angle, material, etc. its no where up to par with the RPI scoop. I dont consider a home made scoop to be anywhere near encroaching on RPI's territory. If I wasn't an hour and forty minutes away from RPI my car would be there now. Hopefully someone in the OC with a Non-M can be the donor.
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03-03-2008, 02:34 PM	#263
Z4coupe Private 0 Rep 55 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fall River MA iTrader: (0)	Mybe we can post this on a few other boards to scrounge up intrest in getting a donor car there? Anyone willing to give this an honest shot?
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03-03-2008, 07:46 PM	#264
Justincase Private First Class 9 Rep 100 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4M Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashville,TN iTrader: (0)	when are they available to ordered and shipped out of CA ? I'm ready __________________
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