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      06-27-2015, 08:21 AM   #23
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OP, about a year ago I had the exact same issue with my E90. I decided to flush the clutch fluid and lost all pressure in the pedal and couldn't get it back. I've bled many clutches in my time on this Earth and this was the first that gave me a problem. I have a fluid extractor, and that didn't work. Brought my Wife out to the garage (she's my former brake bleeder assistant) and nada. So I went the Motive route too. Luckily there is a race shop near my office that stocks Motive's products, so I was back on the road the next day.

All I can say I've seen the light. After 30 years or so of bleeding brakes with a helper, using a power bleeder is just a better method, no ifs ands or buts. To anyone reading this post, get a power bleeder, it's one of the best tools you can get. My Wife has lost her job however and is asking for severance pay (I think really she just misses the lift rides...).
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Question for users of Motive pressure bleeder...

How do you maintain it between bleed sessions to ensure you get a clean uncontaminated bleed the next time?
Do you clean it out each time or just keep it sealed up.?
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After I do a brake fluid flush I always take it apart, wash it with water, dry it, blow the hoses out with air and set it out to dry completely before I put it away. Maybe excessive and maybe not the best way but I haven't had any problems doing that through a few flushes.
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Question for users of Motive pressure bleeder...

How do you maintain it between bleed sessions to ensure you get a clean uncontaminated bleed the next time?
Do you clean it out each time or just keep it sealed up.?
I don't put any fluid in the bleeder itself. I just top up the brake fluid reservoir and use the motive to pressurize it. If you're pushing a lot of fluid through you may have to top up once or twice, but no mess.
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Do you think the bottle would work well with just the pedal pump method?
I assume you mean without having to close the bleed screws between pumps? Don't know. It's easy to get air past the threads and I don't see how the bottle would prevent that. The air could be sucked into the line and you wouldn't know it. The only reason I got the turner bottle was for the nifty magnet attachment. Hardly worth it really. Just get the most motive bleeder. Life will be good.
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I don't put any fluid in the bleeder itself. I just top up the brake fluid reservoir and use the motive to pressurize it. If you're pushing a lot of fluid through you may have to top up once or twice, but no mess.
Thanks, hadn't thought of using it that way.
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Question for users of Motive pressure bleeder...

How do you maintain it between bleed sessions to ensure you get a clean uncontaminated bleed the next time?
Do you clean it out each time or just keep it sealed up.?
Not hard. Motive's instructions say to clean it with denatured alcohol. Any decent hardware store should have it. I clean mine with denatured alcohol and I've used mine about 4 times already and maybe used a pint of denatured alcohol to clean it.

Note, if you do not use fluid in the tank, you can risk getting air into the brake system, not good if you have ABS.
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I don't put any fluid in the bleeder itself. I just top up the brake fluid reservoir and use the motive to pressurize it. If you're pushing a lot of fluid through you may have to top up once or twice, but no mess.
You're defeating the purpose of having the pressure bleeder in the first place by doing this. You've actually increased the risk of filling the system with air because now it's pressurized air.
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Thanks, hadn't thought of using it that way.
I used it that way as well. I think thats probably how most people use it.

As long as you use a turkey baster or something to take the old fluid out of the reservoir first and replace it with new fluid, and of course keep the reservoir 100% full, I think doing it like this is fine.
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OP, about a year ago I had the exact same issue with my E90. I decided to flush the clutch fluid and lost all pressure in the pedal and couldn't get it back. I've bled many clutches in my time on this Earth and this was the first that gave me a problem. I have a fluid extractor, and that didn't work. Brought my Wife out to the garage (she's my former brake bleeder assistant) and nada. So I went the Motive route too. Luckily there is a race shop near my office that stocks Motive's products, so I was back on the road the next day.

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Glad I'm not the only one who managed to do that.

I wonder what percentage of motive bleeders are sold to people in oh shit situations like that.
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Glad I'm not the only one who managed to do that.

I wonder what percentage of motive bleeders are sold to people in oh shit situations like that.
A motive bleeder is worth EVERY penny.

Bleeding bakes/clutch = get a Motive Power Bleeder.

I made a catch can out of some clear hose and an empty washer fluid bottle. Drill a hole in the cap of the bottle, insert hose, whala, free catch can.
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