Rogue Engineering Front Control Arm Bushings

Shipkiller · 02-24-2013, 03:05 PM

Looking at the pictures, they appear to be centered, not offset. I know this works because one or two others on the forum have done this.
Before I jump, I just want to know all the variables so I can plan for the unexpected.

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inTgr8r · 02-24-2013, 03:43 PM

...not powerflex.
The ones I ordered are out of the UK and are offset.

Check here... http://www.superflex.co.uk/proddetai...od=SF095-2558K
& here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-M-O...30855932966%26

Shipkiller · 02-24-2013, 04:11 PM

Now those look good.

A little pricy but 'you have to pay to play'................

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007MCoupe · 02-25-2013, 06:12 AM

Getting exciting hearing a little progress on this thread. Thanks Intgr8r for being the guinea!

inTgr8r · 03-04-2013, 05:00 PM

The bushings just arrived.
The quality looks 1st rate.
Install is still a little ways off, but I'll take a couple of pics with measurements when I get a few minutes.

I'll start a new thread so that it's easier to find later on.

JasonH · 03-06-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

The bushings just arrived.
The quality looks 1st rate.
Install is still a little ways off, but I'll take a couple of pics with measurements when I get a few minutes.

I'll start a new thread so that it's easier to find later on.

I'd definitely like to hear more about these. I also saw that Tein USA is a distributor for SuperPro bushings.

inTgr8r · 03-06-2013, 12:16 PM

^ good to know there's a vendor on this side of the pond.

BIMMERGUY91 · 03-07-2013, 01:03 PM

I think I'm going to talk to Treehouse Racing about making a Z4M control arm bushing

BIMMERGUY91 · 03-12-2013, 04:02 PM

So I didnt talk to Treehouse but I did end up talking to Condor Speedshop (vendor on R3V) and they are interested in making a Z4M polyurethane FCAB

Z///Ms · 03-21-2013, 09:00 PM

I contacted Tein USA the 2558K bushings are not in stock. Special order is 6-10 weeks delivery.

Z///Ms · 04-02-2013, 05:25 PM

Superflex bushings just arrived from the UK. I'll have them installed next week.

inTgr8r · 04-02-2013, 05:28 PM

Should have mine installed in the next couple of weeks as well.

Beedub · 04-06-2013, 03:53 AM

do these just press into the Control Arm??? Having a quick look the Crontrol arm looks like an easy piece to remove so a simply DIY?? or am i missing something... would like to jump on these soon :-)

inTgr8r · 04-06-2013, 09:03 AM

Yes they are a direct fit.
I think You will need a proper setup to press these yourself though.

....might be easier to just pull off the bush and have them done.

GuidoK · 04-06-2013, 09:40 AM

I think you only need a small workplace press? Maybe 15 tons or so (they cost only about $200 and every workplace should have one imho)? That's usually enough for the biggest bushes (especially when only pressing in is a must; removal can also be done with a small grinder and stone, grinding through the old metal bush)

GuidoK · 04-21-2013, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Should have mine installed in the next couple of weeks as well.

So? already installed?

There is also a variant on this superpro bushing.
http://www.bavauto.com also has an 66mm offset bushing
It 's used (like the superpro) in normal z4/3series to change the caster angle.
And I think this one will maybe also fit the stock z4m

It's currently on sale (clearance item so stock is limited) for like $7/piece

I can't post a link (java site) but it's Part # : N52606BAV
If you select a 2004 z4 3.0i you can get there through the menues (It won't list with another car it was not intended for)

Z///Ms · 05-10-2013, 06:35 AM

Installed.

The shop had no problem installing the new Super Flex bushings. Completed track event at Summit Point (main). The car was much better behaved under hard braking.

Blind32 · 05-10-2013, 11:46 AM

Are you running stock suspension? Stock wheels? No caster problem?

inTgr8r · 05-10-2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z///Ms

Installed.

The shop had no problem installing the new Super Flex bushings. Completed track event at Summit Point (main). The car was much better behaved under hard braking.

good stuff....
I kinda got side tracked with the DKF group buy.
Maybe I'll get these on this weekend.

inTgr8r · 05-12-2013, 01:13 PM

Finally got these installed & glad I did.
When I got into it, I found that both of my OE FCABs were done!!!
Both of them had split the rubber along the narrow side of the offset.
This is definitely a weak spot on the OE FACBs. It makes sense since there is just not much rubber to flex, so it tears.
I tried to get a couple of pics but split rubber just didnt show up well.

I did jet a pic of the finished job though.....
Looking forward to a test drive

Beedub · 05-12-2013, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Finally got these installed & glad I did.
When I got into it, I found that both of my OE FCABs were done!!!
Both of them had split the rubber along the narrow side of the offset.
This is definitely a weak spot on the OE FACBs. It makes sense since there is just not much rubber to flex, so it tears.
I tried to get a couple of pics but split rubber just didnt show up well.

I did jet a pic of the finished job though.....
Looking forward to a test drive

Ian, easy install???

inTgr8r · 05-12-2013, 03:24 PM

Not bad....
Biggest problem is getting the old ones off.
.....easy if you have a puller though.

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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	...not powerflex. The ones I ordered are out of the UK and are offset. Check here... http://www.superflex.co.uk/proddetai...od=SF095-2558K & here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-M-O...30855932966%26 Last edited by inTgr8r; 02-24-2013 at 03:52 PM..
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Z///Ms New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: Z3M Rstr, Z3M Coupe, Z4M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	I contacted Tein USA the 2558K bushings are not in stock. Special order is 6-10 weeks delivery.
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04-02-2013, 05:25 PM	#143
Z///Ms New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: Z3M Rstr, Z3M Coupe, Z4M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Superflex bushings just arrived from the UK. I'll have them installed next week.
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	do these just press into the Control Arm??? Having a quick look the Crontrol arm looks like an easy piece to remove so a simply DIY?? or am i missing something... would like to jump on these soon :-) __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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04-06-2013, 09:03 AM	#146
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Yes they are a direct fit. I think You will need a proper setup to press these yourself though. ....might be easier to just pull off the bush and have them done. __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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GuidoK #buildnotbought 10871 Rep 4,895 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i ESS TS2+ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tinkering in the garage iTrader: (0)	I think you only need a small workplace press? Maybe 15 tons or so (they cost only about $200 and every workplace should have one imho)? That's usually enough for the biggest bushes (especially when only pressing in is a must; removal can also be done with a small grinder and stone, grinding through the old metal bush)
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05-10-2013, 06:35 AM	#149
Z///Ms New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: Z3M Rstr, Z3M Coupe, Z4M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Installed. The shop had no problem installing the new Super Flex bushings. Completed track event at Summit Point (main). The car was much better behaved under hard braking.
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05-12-2013, 01:13 PM	#152
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Finally got these installed & glad I did. When I got into it, I found that both of my OE FCABs were done!!! Both of them had split the rubber along the narrow side of the offset. This is definitely a weak spot on the OE FACBs. It makes sense since there is just not much rubber to flex, so it tears. I tried to get a couple of pics but split rubber just didnt show up well. I did jet a pic of the finished job though..... Looking forward to a test drive __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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05-12-2013, 03:24 PM	#154
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