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06-10-2014, 07:42 PM | #1 |
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Michelin PSS backordered to 7/18 ... Help me choose alternative!
I had my heart set on some Michelin PSS but I'm not waiting a month for them. I have some super noisy Kumho's on the front right now. No more Korean tires for me. I'd like to hit the track a few times this summer. Have some new wheels coming and want 255/35-18 and 275/35-18.
My priorities: 1) Quiet 2) Ride quality 3) Predictable breakaway What would y'all suggest? I am looking at the Bridgestone S-04 but have never used this tire. Traction isn't really a priority because I'm just out there for fun.
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id go for rs-3 all day long or the BF rivals.... the PSS is imo WAY WAY overhyped...
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The S04 is fantastic. I ditched my PSS for these tires due to road noise and balance issues on the front (defective front tires; my previous set of PSS had no balance issues, but were still somewhat noisy).
The S04 rides significantly quieter than the PSS and exhibits no perceptible loss in steering response or grip compared to the Michelins. The only advantage of the Michelins is supposedly longer tread life, but that's not a big consideration for me since I don't daily drive the Z4MC. I think the S04s have been overshadowed by the heaps of praise the PSS has been (perhaps undeservingly so) receiving. I have been very happy with my S04s and would not hesitate to recommend them over the Michelins.
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Glad to be able to help. I think you will like these tires.
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06-12-2014, 01:58 AM | #10 |
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Where did you order from and what sizes SeanK?
I'm looking for 255/35-18 and 275/35-18. TireRack website says 7/18 dude!!! I'm not waiting a month for tires.
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which leads to my next point/question for OP, you want a track tire where the first priority is quiet? That's going to be tough IMO. Best tire that comes to mind is Conti DW and I'd use that as a backup rain tire. Could definitely be used on dry but I don't see it lasting long if driven hard on track. I would just go with Star Specs, can handle almost anything you throw at it and wasn't as loud as my RS-3's. |
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I want a GT tire that I can take to the track a couple times without shredding. I'm not too concerned about track times, mostly about longevity and street manners.
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I think you have to prioritize goals. Rain capability comes largely at the loss of track capability (tread block size and pattern, as well as compound). Noise seems to go somewhat hand in hand with higher performance, grip, stiff sidewalls, and other performance-based construction. The PSS is a fairly good compromise tire, but it is a compromise. It's very good in the rain, and the sets I've been exposed to are pretty quiet. Pretty good grip, but not extreme summer tire (Star Spec or equivalent) grip. It's got a softer sidewall (ride comfort, noise reduction, harshness reduction, at expense of reaction time), does heat up and get a bit greasy on track under heavy use (but I haven't heard of "shredding"), and it's pricey. Bottom line all three things you want may not be available in the same tire. They may be there to some degree, but you'll have to give on something IMO. |
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Also, I will provide one other random fact regarding Conti DW. I was surfing through HBO and saw FnF 6. It was the scene where Dom was going to street race Letty and she had her Jenson Interceptor. She was running Conti ExtremeContacts... HMMMM, makes you wonder NO!? I think Dom was running Star Spec Z2's here... IIRC the race was in semi-wet conditions too. Explains so much... Last edited by 3002 tii; 06-12-2014 at 02:24 PM.. |
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Thanks guys. I got the S04's mounted today and boy, what a difference. The ride quality is so much better. It absorbs bumps better than the Kumho's I had before. I feel like I gained an inch of travel in my suspension.
I have a Porsche 964 Carrera 2 that is more "hardcore" than the M Coupe. I'm gonna strip out the seats and carpeting and probably the rear speakers in an attempt to lose some weight in that car. I'll go for a less "GT" tire and more of an all-out performance tire for that car. (Have CCW's, coil overs, on that car and she rips!) Kinda setting up my stable with a daily driver (Z4 2.5i), a fun GT car that I don't drive often (Z4MC) and a fun car that has all the goodies but I never drive (911) hahaha
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That is all I know. BTW, at the time, the 275/35-18 was the only size on back order. |
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