This M Coupe For Sale - Scam?

Z4Murder · 10-29-2014, 10:23 PM

way to look out for the zed community guys and gals

mcoupe5/6 · 10-29-2014, 10:41 PM

Got 1 more email, abt wanting a quick sale... Blah blah blah
with more photos and a vin #
5umdu934x7lm08177
If anyone is interested in looking into the cars history.
Also noticed in the photos that the license place was a Washington plate AIN2621

But I do agree, another reason this community rocks, looking out for each other.

Finnegan · 10-30-2014, 12:23 AM

Way to go guys! Nice detective work!

Cyclops · 10-30-2014, 12:35 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-...p2047675.l2557

Maybe this was the original sale and photos hijacked

Steeler · 10-30-2014, 04:57 AM

I was selling a TVR on line years ago and was contacted by a buyer in Greece who was to send a check for the price of the car and shipping costs that I was to send to a shipping firm.
The shipping costs were to be forward by me to the shipping firm by a particular date to meet shipping schedule and of course the check would not be cleared by that time.
I went along with the scam and received a check in the mail for the agreed amount plus a bit for me "for my trouble"
I passéd the check onto the bank reporting fraud of course.
Hey if they want to play games make them pay however small the amount.

aolling · 10-30-2014, 11:44 AM

Yep, when it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. I mean come on....a Z4M coupe with 18,000 miles for $16,300. That has scam written all over it. Should have been a $32,000 and up asking price IMO.

Regardless, glad to see the ad is gone.

aolling · 10-30-2014, 11:56 AM

Cyclops, the photo of the car in front of the garage doors is definitely the same photo they highjacked and used in the cars.com ad. Good find. I'm very glad the ad is gone before someone gets taken for a ride the hard way.

HEY32G · 10-30-2014, 08:37 PM

I knew you guys would get to the bottom of that.

jrainlay · 10-31-2014, 05:44 PM

A few years ago, I tried to sell a BMW 5 Series on eBay. I was pleasantly surprised to find someone closed the auction by agreeing to pay my buy it now price. Sent them an email asking for my $500 good faith payment. They responded and said they were an oceanographer and currently at sea, but they would send the payment by PayPal. I said i needed a cashiers check because I didn't want to pay the PayPal transaction fee. They responded and said they would send me the payment plus the transaction fee amount. They also said that they wanted to send me the entire sale price plus transaction fee by PayPal. And oh, by the way, they would also send me the auto transporter charge plus fee via PayPal and would I please pay the auto transporter their $5000 advance fee on their behalf by sending a money order to the auto transporter. By this time I was certain this was a scam so I contacted eBay direct. A supervisor called me and said this was "the famous oceanographer scam." He explained that the scammer wasn't interested in the car at all. Instead, if I had agreed to the proposed transaction, the scammer would have sent me a phony email that would appear to be from PayPal advising me that the funds had been received into my PayPal account. The scammer would be hoping that I would be stupid enough not to verify the funds and even more stupid to send the $5000 to the phony car transporter. To their credit, eBay immediately cancelled the transaction and refunded all my eBay fees. Moral of the story: Don't ever agree to sell anything over the Internet to an oceanographer!!!

One final note, this is the only fraud problem I have had with eBay. I have bought and sold other vehicles on eBay (including the Z4MC you see below) with no problem whatsoever.

Z4Murder · 11-04-2014, 05:31 PM

Beware of the typical scam out there. Craigslist, eBay, wherever... They make up some story, ask you to hold the item for them, send you a check for way over the amount its worth, and ask to have the rest of the money sent back to them plus a little for you for your troubles. Checks will clear almost immediately and then your bank finds out that it's a bad check 3-5 days later and your SOL if you already sent the $$. Be cautious of the scumbags out there when buying/ selling online.

aolling · 11-05-2014, 03:19 PM

Yes, I am sure I have found another one already. Z4M coupe for $18,000 with only 21,000 miles? Yeah, right. Probably has no motor in it!! I am beginning to find a scam a week! It seems like these website would screen these seemingly outrageous "deals".

10-29-2014, 10:23 PM	#23
Z4Murder Major 28 Rep 1,110 Posts Drives: > speed limit Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY iTrader: (1)	way to look out for the zed community guys and gals __________________ 2007 TiAg ///MCoupe * Dinan strut bars * ZHP knob * RPI scoop * Ultimate Pedals * RE Diablo * 3.91 TMS gears * Apex PS7 * Eventuri intake* Nitto NT05 * TMS pullies * Zeck CDV * RE tranny mounts * Tekarbon * Mstache 2 * '14 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi... No more snow for the M!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-29-2014, 10:41 PM	#24
mcoupe5/6 Private First Class 8 Rep 165 Posts Drives: 08 M Coupe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: houston iTrader: (0)	Got 1 more email, abt wanting a quick sale... Blah blah blah with more photos and a vin # 5umdu934x7lm08177 If anyone is interested in looking into the cars history. Also noticed in the photos that the license place was a Washington plate AIN2621 But I do agree, another reason this community rocks, looking out for each other.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 12:23 AM	#25
Finnegan Dog Listener 703 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	Way to go guys! Nice detective work!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 12:35 AM	#26
Cyclops Major 1473 Rep 1,483 Posts Drives: 09 E91 328i & 07 E86 M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Milton iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 E91 328xi M Tech [10.00] 2007 E86 Z4M Coupe [8.67]	http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-...p2047675.l2557 Maybe this was the original sale and photos hijacked
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 04:57 AM	#27
Steeler Colonel 2429 Rep 2,704 Posts Drives: Built not Bought 04 Z4 VF Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada iTrader: (2)	I was selling a TVR on line years ago and was contacted by a buyer in Greece who was to send a check for the price of the car and shipping costs that I was to send to a shipping firm. The shipping costs were to be forward by me to the shipping firm by a particular date to meet shipping schedule and of course the check would not be cleared by that time. I went along with the scam and received a check in the mail for the agreed amount plus a bit for me "for my trouble" I passéd the check onto the bank reporting fraud of course. Hey if they want to play games make them pay however small the amount. __________________ W2A Intercooled Vortech V3Si, custom ducting, Alpha N, 60# Bosch,2.62 pulley, multi port WMI, Severn Tuning(pokeybritches), Tial, magnaflow,SS race muffler, 42 design,3.91LSD, H&R, Hotchkis,ST coils,Konis, Megan camber arms, AKG SS, Nylon mounts, Poly bushings, Carbon interior, CF Aero.APEX
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 11:44 AM	#28
aolling New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 2000 bmw z3 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: dryden, ny iTrader: (0)	Yep, when it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. I mean come on....a Z4M coupe with 18,000 miles for $16,300. That has scam written all over it. Should have been a $32,000 and up asking price IMO. Regardless, glad to see the ad is gone.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 11:56 AM	#29
aolling New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 2000 bmw z3 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: dryden, ny iTrader: (0)	Cyclops, the photo of the car in front of the garage doors is definitely the same photo they highjacked and used in the cars.com ad. Good find. I'm very glad the ad is gone before someone gets taken for a ride the hard way.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-30-2014, 08:37 PM	#30
HEY32G Captain 224 Rep 770 Posts Drives: Z4 sdrive35is Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I knew you guys would get to the bottom of that.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-31-2014, 05:44 PM	#31
jrainlay Private First Class 5 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW Z4 M Coupe [7.50]	A few years ago, I tried to sell a BMW 5 Series on eBay. I was pleasantly surprised to find someone closed the auction by agreeing to pay my buy it now price. Sent them an email asking for my $500 good faith payment. They responded and said they were an oceanographer and currently at sea, but they would send the payment by PayPal. I said i needed a cashiers check because I didn't want to pay the PayPal transaction fee. They responded and said they would send me the payment plus the transaction fee amount. They also said that they wanted to send me the entire sale price plus transaction fee by PayPal. And oh, by the way, they would also send me the auto transporter charge plus fee via PayPal and would I please pay the auto transporter their $5000 advance fee on their behalf by sending a money order to the auto transporter. By this time I was certain this was a scam so I contacted eBay direct. A supervisor called me and said this was "the famous oceanographer scam." He explained that the scammer wasn't interested in the car at all. Instead, if I had agreed to the proposed transaction, the scammer would have sent me a phony email that would appear to be from PayPal advising me that the funds had been received into my PayPal account. The scammer would be hoping that I would be stupid enough not to verify the funds and even more stupid to send the $5000 to the phony car transporter. To their credit, eBay immediately cancelled the transaction and refunded all my eBay fees. Moral of the story: Don't ever agree to sell anything over the Internet to an oceanographer!!! One final note, this is the only fraud problem I have had with eBay. I have bought and sold other vehicles on eBay (including the Z4MC you see below) with no problem whatsoever. __________________ Mods: MStache2, stubby, CF plate frame, CF spoiler, CF grills, aero skirts, reflector/lite deletes, CSLs, H&R coilovers & 12mm spacers, Rogue RSMs, RPI exhaust Last edited by jrainlay; 11-01-2014 at 11:08 AM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-04-2014, 05:31 PM	#32
Z4Murder Major 28 Rep 1,110 Posts Drives: > speed limit Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY iTrader: (1)	Beware of the typical scam out there. Craigslist, eBay, wherever... They make up some story, ask you to hold the item for them, send you a check for way over the amount its worth, and ask to have the rest of the money sent back to them plus a little for you for your troubles. Checks will clear almost immediately and then your bank finds out that it's a bad check 3-5 days later and your SOL if you already sent the $$. Be cautious of the scumbags out there when buying/ selling online. __________________ 2007 TiAg ///MCoupe * Dinan strut bars * ZHP knob * RPI scoop * Ultimate Pedals * RE Diablo * 3.91 TMS gears * Apex PS7 * Eventuri intake* Nitto NT05 * TMS pullies * Zeck CDV * RE tranny mounts * Tekarbon * Mstache 2 * '14 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi... No more snow for the M!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-05-2014, 03:19 PM	#33
aolling New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 2000 bmw z3 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: dryden, ny iTrader: (0)	Yes, I am sure I have found another one already. Z4M coupe for $18,000 with only 21,000 miles? Yeah, right. Probably has no motor in it!! I am beginning to find a scam a week! It seems like these website would screen these seemingly outrageous "deals".
	Appreciate 0 Quote