Z4UM

sp3ctre · 06-18-2007, 10:59 AM

Hi all... i'm responsible for "the other forum" popping up last week. I would just like to write a brief note about why I did it and where I am coming from with it.

I was (as a lot of people were) very p***ed off with the way the z4um situation was handled. This has been discussed already and we don't need to go over it again. I decided to register a similar name and put a concerted effort into making it a success.

To address the comments about why we don't just come over here, I just don't see it as necessary. There have always been multiple forums for every kind of car and they generally co-exist very nicely. I certainly do not want to take people away from this (very good!) forum, but rather people can come and go as they please.

I have some big things in mind for the new forum, but it's only 3 days old and have not had chance to implement them just yet. Hopefully in good time we will end up being the two leading Z4 dedicated forums.

In my research I have been astounded at the animosity that has come from certain other forums, and it is refreshing to come accross this forum being so friendly.

So... I hope that clears up any confusion... I hope to participate in this forum too, and I have no issue with this forum being mentioned over at the new one. My forum is intended to add to the community, not alienate people at all. After all, we're all in the same family!

inTgr8r · 06-18-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by takedown8

Why don't you ask them to come over here instead of them starting a whole new forum?

+1 I don't see any real benefit.
JMO, but it will only lead to a fragmented community.

Dammmittt · 06-18-2007, 11:31 AM

So...people have mentioned this "other" forum. What's it called?

sp3ctre · 06-18-2007, 11:32 AM

each to their own... not looking for a fight here, but are you of the opinion that this board should not have formed either, as it was formed when z4um was "the best"?

Guess we won't be seeing you over there then?

sp3ctre · 06-18-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

So...people have mentioned this "other" forum. What's it called?

www.z4-forum.com

I wasn't sure it was ok to post the link so I didn't...

Excuse the rough around the edges look to it... am skinning it in photoshop as we speak.

Great board you have here by the way!

Rick Hunter · 06-18-2007, 12:14 PM

One advantage ZPOST has over Z4UM is that you can hop over to the sister forums (E09POST, XBimmers, M3POST) and mingle with other BMW owners. Granted that most of the members there are still going through puberty, it's still refreshing to be able to read & learn about similar likes / dislikes of other cars in the BMW lineup.

There are a few other forums I lurk at that provide even greater model lineup coverage, but I return to ZPOST because it's very well organized. IMHO, I think there may be too many sites to look at (not good for my addiction) for just the Z4.

I actually lurked onto your site yesterday, sp3ctre, and I think it's brilliant. Very well organized and remeniscent of the old Z4UM. I think only time will tell as to how it'll fit into the niche. Kudos to you for the efforts.

sp3ctre · 06-18-2007, 12:18 PM

Thanks Rick... I understand the views of those who say we should have one united forum, I do, but it just doesn't quite fit in with what I am looking to do... To be honest, if my plans don't work then people will vote with their feet, so only time will tell.

I completely agree with your sentiments though, this place is great!

Rick Hunter · 06-18-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sp3ctre

Thanks Rick... I understand the views of those who say we should have one united forum, I do, but it just doesn't quite fit in with what I am looking to do...

You teaser, you!

Actually, I'm surprised you didn't wait until the Z4UM domain expired... it would have been fair game to pick up the site since nobody would have laid claim to it. I'm guessing that Z4ce would probably be willing to transfer server data eventually (assuming it's not lost) for you to rebuild the site. If whatever that happened to his family had happened to me, I wouldn't be interested in maintaining the Z4UM site either.

sp3ctre · 06-18-2007, 12:42 PM

true, true... we'll see what happens if and when he returns... it would be good if we could get the old info though, it was a wealth of knowledge!

That emoticon is cool!!

inTgr8r · 06-18-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sp3ctre

Thanks Rick... I understand the views of those who say we should have one united forum, I do, but it just doesn't quite fit in with what I am looking to do... To be honest, if my plans don't work then people will vote with their feet, so only time will tell.

I completely agree with your sentiments though, this place is great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp3ctre

true, true... we'll see what happens if and when he returns... it would be good if we could get the old info though, it was a wealth of knowledge!

That emoticon is cool!!

It'll be interesting to see how things unfold with your plans...
& yes, if there was ever a way to recover data, that would be fantastic!

Yal · 06-18-2007, 09:15 PM

GVfromBelgium is on the other site, so there is some technical knowledge showing up there already. I'll be on both boards.

rosierobins2003 · 06-18-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yal

I was invited over there, god only knows why. Not sure I contribute much, but I like it over here.

Also, I have mentioned this site. Really comfy and familiar here. This site has really taken off in the short time i've been a member.

I prefer this site...i was on the z4um.com but this one is comfy and less rules and restrictions...do others feel the lack as well?

Rosie

enfield · 06-18-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rosierobins2003

I prefer this site...i was on the z4um.com but this one is comfy and less rules and restrictions...do others feel the lack as well?

Rosie

Have to agree with you about the the rule/restrictions part. However, I miss the European guys

takedown8 · 06-18-2007, 11:35 PM

Sometimes I get the feeling that the UK guys don't feel as comfortable being on American boards. Since the NA members outnumber them, I guess it's only fair that we should also visit on their turf to even things out.

Rick Hunter · 06-19-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rosierobins2003

I prefer this site...i was on the z4um.com but this one is comfy and less rules and restrictions...do others feel the lack as well?

Rosie

I think nobody has yet committed a really horrible offence here yet. It's probably because a lot of us know each other from the other forums, and we don't really have too many troublemakers that test the limits of others. There used to be a good fight at Z4UM at least once a week just before it went down.

I think we all manage each other quite well around here. Very mature group here.

sp3ctre · 06-19-2007, 02:01 AM

I agree, there did used to be sparks flying quite often on z4um, but from he way I saw it most of it was because certain people didn't like the over-moderation of the board, was a little too "big brother". I intend to allow "intense debate" (not like mass debate!) over there and keep moderation to a minimum... we'll see how it works out... so far everyone seems to ba having a good laugh.

As for feeling comfortable here, I can see why.... if people want to stay here then that's fine, but any of you who want to visit z4-forum.com too from time to time are most welcome. Like I said, plenty of room for both of us in my opinion... I'll certainly be mentioning this site over there, as I think this place is great!

zednik · 06-19-2007, 09:10 AM

Each site has something to offer but I wonder how anyone has the time to monitor more than one? Sometimes I get annoyed at myself for the amount of time I spend on this site alone. Speaking for myself I'll probably just visit one forum unless the present crew defects en masse.

155MPH · 06-19-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rosierobins2003

I prefer this site...i was on the z4um.com but this one is comfy and less rules and restrictions...do others feel the lack as well?

Rosie

It does feel quite comfy! But not as global, and I do miss the dry British wit...

sp3ctre · 06-19-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zednik

Each site has something to offer but I wonder how anyone has the time to monitor more than one? Sometimes I get annoyed at myself for the amount of time I spend on this site alone. Speaking for myself I'll probably just visit one forum unless the present crew defects en masse.

hehe, I wonder the same... yet I do visit

Each to their own... stay here if you like, or pop across if you have time, I'm sure you're welcome on both boards

561design · 06-21-2007, 07:55 AM

Ahhh, today is a sad day. I deleted my link to z4um today.

inTgr8r · 06-21-2007, 08:06 AM

^ I still can't do it.

Rick Hunter · 06-21-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 561design

Ahhh, today is a sad day. I deleted my link to z4um today.

Z4um's back! Z4um's back!!! :rocks:

Haha, j/k. I still have that bookmark too. Can't delete it... :mad:

06-18-2007, 10:59 AM	#353
sp3ctre New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Black 3.0 Z4 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harrogate iTrader: (0)	Hi all... i'm responsible for "the other forum" popping up last week. I would just like to write a brief note about why I did it and where I am coming from with it. I was (as a lot of people were) very p***ed off with the way the z4um situation was handled. This has been discussed already and we don't need to go over it again. I decided to register a similar name and put a concerted effort into making it a success. To address the comments about why we don't just come over here, I just don't see it as necessary. There have always been multiple forums for every kind of car and they generally co-exist very nicely. I certainly do not want to take people away from this (very good!) forum, but rather people can come and go as they please. I have some big things in mind for the new forum, but it's only 3 days old and have not had chance to implement them just yet. Hopefully in good time we will end up being the two leading Z4 dedicated forums. In my research I have been astounded at the animosity that has come from certain other forums, and it is refreshing to come accross this forum being so friendly. So... I hope that clears up any confusion... I hope to participate in this forum too, and I have no issue with this forum being mentioned over at the new one. My forum is intended to add to the community, not alienate people at all. After all, we're all in the same family!
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06-18-2007, 11:31 AM	#355
Dammmittt My favorite sign. 169 Rep 4,333 Posts Drives: 2007 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Der Autobahnen iTrader: (0)	So...people have mentioned this "other" forum. What's it called? __________________ 07 ///M Coupe (Premium Package) Black Saphire Ext. Imola Red Int. Best Website EVER!
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06-18-2007, 11:32 AM	#356
sp3ctre New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Black 3.0 Z4 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harrogate iTrader: (0)	each to their own... not looking for a fight here, but are you of the opinion that this board should not have formed either, as it was formed when z4um was "the best"? Guess we won't be seeing you over there then?
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06-18-2007, 12:14 PM	#358
Rick Hunter Skull Squadron Leader 307 Rep 2,031 Posts Drives: '07 M Coupé & '16 435xi GCoupé Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Emerald City iTrader: (20)	One advantage ZPOST has over Z4UM is that you can hop over to the sister forums (E09POST, XBimmers, M3POST) and mingle with other BMW owners. Granted that most of the members there are still going through puberty, it's still refreshing to be able to read & learn about similar likes / dislikes of other cars in the BMW lineup. There are a few other forums I lurk at that provide even greater model lineup coverage, but I return to ZPOST because it's very well organized. IMHO, I think there may be too many sites to look at (not good for my addiction) for just the Z4. I actually lurked onto your site yesterday, sp3ctre, and I think it's brilliant. Very well organized and remeniscent of the old Z4UM. I think only time will tell as to how it'll fit into the niche. Kudos to you for the efforts. __________________
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06-18-2007, 12:18 PM	#359
sp3ctre New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Black 3.0 Z4 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harrogate iTrader: (0)	Thanks Rick... I understand the views of those who say we should have one united forum, I do, but it just doesn't quite fit in with what I am looking to do... To be honest, if my plans don't work then people will vote with their feet, so only time will tell. I completely agree with your sentiments though, this place is great!
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06-18-2007, 12:42 PM	#361
sp3ctre New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Black 3.0 Z4 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harrogate iTrader: (0)	true, true... we'll see what happens if and when he returns... it would be good if we could get the old info though, it was a wealth of knowledge! That emoticon is cool!!
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06-18-2007, 09:15 PM	#363
Yal Lieutenant 10 Rep 490 Posts Drives: '03 Z4 2.5 Maldives Blue Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA iTrader: (0)	GVfromBelgium is on the other site, so there is some technical knowledge showing up there already. I'll be on both boards. __________________
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06-18-2007, 11:35 PM	#366
takedown8 Major 56 Rep 1,068 Posts Drives: 2005 BMW Z4 3.0i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Sometimes I get the feeling that the UK guys don't feel as comfortable being on American boards. Since the NA members outnumber them, I guess it's only fair that we should also visit on their turf to even things out.
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06-19-2007, 02:01 AM	#368
sp3ctre New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Black 3.0 Z4 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Harrogate iTrader: (0)	I agree, there did used to be sparks flying quite often on z4um, but from he way I saw it most of it was because certain people didn't like the over-moderation of the board, was a little too "big brother". I intend to allow "intense debate" (not like mass debate!) over there and keep moderation to a minimum... we'll see how it works out... so far everyone seems to ba having a good laugh. As for feeling comfortable here, I can see why.... if people want to stay here then that's fine, but any of you who want to visit z4-forum.com too from time to time are most welcome. Like I said, plenty of room for both of us in my opinion... I'll certainly be mentioning this site over there, as I think this place is great!
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06-19-2007, 09:10 AM	#369
zednik Private First Class 8 Rep 191 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4 3.0i Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California iTrader: (0)	Each site has something to offer but I wonder how anyone has the time to monitor more than one? Sometimes I get annoyed at myself for the amount of time I spend on this site alone. Speaking for myself I'll probably just visit one forum unless the present crew defects en masse.
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06-21-2007, 07:55 AM	#372
561design z4um Hooligan 140 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 3.0Si Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Woodstock,Ga iTrader: (1)	Ahhh, today is a sad day. I deleted my link to z4um today. __________________ Charles flickr
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06-21-2007, 08:06 AM	#373
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2434 Rep 11,668 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	^ I still can't do it. __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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