New Z4/Supra

garz747 · 04-09-2018, 06:17 PM

Ive read that Toyota wasnt happy about a few details on their new collaboration with BMW and that both vehicles will likely be delayed until approximately October of 2018. Is it me or do you see quite a bit of the E86 Coupe in the renderings of the Toyota? Anyway Im flattered!

MinneapolisJeff · 04-09-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by garz747

Ive read that Toyota wasnt happy about a few details on their new collaboration with BMW and that both vehicles will likely be delayed until approximately October of 2018. Is it me or do you see quite a bit of the E86 Coupe in the renderings of the Toyota? Anyway Im flattered!

Where did you read? Source?

Haven't seen any pics of the Supra yet.

Andyh1 · 04-09-2018, 09:33 PM

Yup, source please.

garz747 · 04-10-2018, 08:00 AM

Road &Track.com 2019 supra- long hood , double bubble roof, similar roofline

mainsoda · 04-10-2018, 09:28 AM

Like this?

PLCZ4MC · 04-10-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mainsoda

Like this?

If the new Supra were to look like the prototype Toyota FT1 I would be first in line to get one. The FT1 Looks awesome! The Supra looks more weak in my opinion.

koruptor · 04-10-2018, 10:10 AM

There are some user-rendered images on the SupraMKV forums like these below. Again, these are rendered by users at the forum and aren't official. I can definitely see some similarities to the E86, one being the "hockey sticks"

, that roof, and the rear.

In my personal opinion, I'm more excited for the Supra over the new Z4 (G29). I love my coupe and I'd always want some form of hard-top on my car. I believe the G29 will only come as a soft-top. I'm also not entirely in love with how the G29 looks.

Yapakanichi · 04-12-2018, 08:35 AM

Both are hideous....

Vanne · 04-12-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PLCZ4MC

If the new Supra were to look like the prototype Toyota FT1 I would be first in line to get one. The FT1 Looks awesome! The Supra looks more weak in my opinion.

If this is what it will look like , ill be in line right behind you. If the Z4 looks like the current rendering on the main intro page, then its as ugly as sin and I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot marine pole.

Huz-Z · 04-12-2018, 04:07 PM

Didn’t the Z4 concept get a very positive reception?

deemo319 · 04-12-2018, 04:53 PM

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Didn't the Z4 concept get a very positive reception?

Yes

The HACK · 04-12-2018, 04:59 PM

My next BMW might be a Toyota.

MinneapolisJeff · 04-12-2018, 08:59 PM

Automobile Magazine posted this tonight on Twitter

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/to...eady-interior/

WickedNy · 04-13-2018, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

My next BMW might be a Toyota.

Whs

3798j · 04-13-2018, 05:24 AM

No third pedal?...

Huz-Z · 04-13-2018, 07:58 AM

Until the production car is actually revealed, its final production specs disclosed, and the variants have been driven and tested, I think its a wee bit premature to declare it to be a turd.

Just sayin'.

Vanne · 04-13-2018, 10:57 AM

yup agreed Huz, but it aint looking good so far. Those latest pics of the supra don't wet my whistle either to be honest. more general use, wide population , current gen bmw design rubbish. difficult to get too exited about it. Then again, they did surprise me with the M2, so there is still hope that its not a turd.

The HACK · 04-13-2018, 11:18 AM

I suspect the Supra will be one of those "looks better in person" type cars.

If you look at the Gazoo Racing Supra race car, you can see the actual production profiles if you subtract the wide fenders front and rear. And it photographs WELL from normal standing height:

I see a lot of E86 proportions in this shot. The aesthetic issue I have with it is the Toyota front end.

Again, if you take away all the racing bits, it looks a lot like mid '90s Generic Toyota. Maybe that's what they're going for. IMO mid '90s Japanese auto aesthetics are nothing to write home about.

All the rumors and numbers though, seems to suggest that this car is going to be as close to a spiritual successor to our MZ4 Coupe as any car BMW will likely ever produce in the future. ~3,000 lbs, 3XXHP, way more torque, 50-50 weight, stiff chassis, Magna Styr build (the original Z4 Coupe concept was built by Magna Styr). While the rumored lack of 3rd pedal might ultimately push me to find a C7 Grand Sport in pursuit of my 2nd mid-life crisis, IF I were to ever buy another BMW, THIS would be it.

garz747 · 04-13-2018, 06:19 PM

Thanks for agreeing!

The HACK · 04-13-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by garz747

Thanks for agreeing!

If this is not a dead ringer for the Z4 Coupe, I don't know what is.

garz747 · 04-13-2018, 07:45 PM

I call it copyright infringement! Nice photo comparison.

Vanne · 04-14-2018, 11:42 AM

Hack, agreed mate, sore as heck looks like the e86 mate. That also reminds me of the Merc AMG GT.. dead ringer for the Z4 coupe..

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koruptor Private First Class 31 Rep 162 Posts Drives: 2008 Z4 3.0si Coupe Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW Z4 3.0si [10.00]	There are some user-rendered images on the SupraMKV forums like these below. Again, these are rendered by users at the forum and aren't official. I can definitely see some similarities to the E86, one being the "hockey sticks" , that roof, and the rear. In my personal opinion, I'm more excited for the Supra over the new Z4 (G29). I love my coupe and I'd always want some form of hard-top on my car. I believe the G29 will only come as a soft-top. I'm also not entirely in love with how the G29 looks. __________________ 2008 Z4 3.0si Coupe
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Vanne Down Under!! 1621 Rep 4,294 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dubai iTrader: (4)	yup agreed Huz, but it aint looking good so far. Those latest pics of the supra don't wet my whistle either to be honest. more general use, wide population , current gen bmw design rubbish. difficult to get too exited about it. Then again, they did surprise me with the M2, so there is still hope that its not a turd. __________________ 2007 EuroSpec Z4///MC - Building/Developing Z4 GT3 Powered by
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The HACK Midlife Crises Racing Silent but Deadly Class 1821 Rep 5,337 Posts Drives: 2006 MZ4C, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Welcome to Jamaica have a nice day iTrader: (1)	I suspect the Supra will be one of those "looks better in person" type cars. If you look at the Gazoo Racing Supra race car, you can see the actual production profiles if you subtract the wide fenders front and rear. And it photographs WELL from normal standing height: I see a lot of E86 proportions in this shot. The aesthetic issue I have with it is the Toyota front end. Again, if you take away all the racing bits, it looks a lot like mid '90s Generic Toyota. Maybe that's what they're going for. IMO mid '90s Japanese auto aesthetics are nothing to write home about. All the rumors and numbers though, seems to suggest that this car is going to be as close to a spiritual successor to our MZ4 Coupe as any car BMW will likely ever produce in the future. ~3,000 lbs, 3XXHP, way more torque, 50-50 weight, stiff chassis, Magna Styr build (the original Z4 Coupe concept was built by Magna Styr). While the rumored lack of 3rd pedal might ultimately push me to find a C7 Grand Sport in pursuit of my 2nd mid-life crisis, IF I were to ever buy another BMW, THIS would be it. __________________ Sitting on a beat-up office chair in front of a 5 year old computer in a basement floor, sipping on stale coffee watching a bunch of meaningless numbers scrolling aimlessly on a dimly lit 19” monitor.
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Vanne Down Under!! 1621 Rep 4,294 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dubai iTrader: (4)	Hack, agreed mate, sore as heck looks like the e86 mate. That also reminds me of the Merc AMG GT.. dead ringer for the Z4 coupe.. __________________ 2007 EuroSpec Z4///MC - Building/Developing Z4 GT3 Powered by
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