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11-01-2008, 10:23 AM | #23 | |
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11-04-2008, 09:02 AM | #24 |
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Assuming that you are correct, that the bolts would sheer first, using a stronger strut brace built from tubing, I should never need to worry about replacing the strut brace.
Perhaps the point you are tring to make is that any strut brace is only as good as the the studs on the struts that you have on the car?
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As someone else noted, competition on these parts is a good thing. Some want a simple, elegant brace (BMW OEM), some want a beast of a strut (MASON), and some want something in between these two. To each, their own. When we post here we all know that readers may agree or disagree with our post and/or opinions, and then post their own. That's the beauty of these forums. |
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I've been enjoying the arugment over the strut brace versus the strut bolts, especially the part about breaking the strut bolts. Short of destroying the front end in a wreck, when is the last time one of our members broke a set if strut bolts on a race course? Or for that matter, boke the struts bolts in any way but a wreck?
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I am under the impression that the bolts that the strut bars attach to are the bolts on the shock (struts), hence my statement. I was totally agreeing with that thought. Not many of us here are structional engineers and I do not believe he is either, or he would be more helpful and supply forum members with the information that is in question. Most of my statements were in the form of a question as to expand the thought process here. I'm not tring to create an issue here, I was just tring to look at all pieces of the pie. Not everyone will take a thought in the same direction. IMHO that is what makes the forums so great. Different people bring different thought processes to the table. Live long and prosper.
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I am under the impression that the bolts that the strut bars attach to are the bolts on the shock (struts), hence my statement. I was totally agreeing with that thought. Not many of us here are structional engineers and I do not believe he is either, or he would be more helpful and supply forum members with the information that is in question. Most of my statements were in the form of a question as to expand the thought process here. I'm not tring to create an issue here, I was just tring to look at all pieces of the pie. Not everyone will take a thought in the same direction. IMHO that is what makes the forums so great. Different people bring different thought processes to the table. Live long and prosper.
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Now, I wouldn't say that any strut brace is as good as the bolts holding it on. What you gotta look at is the failure load case. What's gonna fail first, the strut or the bolts? Most struts are gonna outlast the bolts, just cuz of the stress concentrations, but what you want to look at is, how much the strut deflects at the bolt failure? The stiffer the strut the less flexure you're going to have, which is better. Now, the Dinan hinged strut is going to "cheat" cuz the hinge will allow the towers to rotate, while the strut itself doesn't deflect, so it's not helping your front end stiffness as much as it could/should. Sorry if that's confusing...I'm in a bit of a hurry.
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Could you tell me where you got it and how much?
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