Which is faster 2009 Z4 sDrive35i or Z4 M roadster?

flpnout · 07-29-2009, 02:09 AM

Did anyone read any comparison yet between the latest Z4 sDrive35i pinned against the current Z4 M roadster as far as which is faster and handles better? I just bought a 2008 last of the M roadster about a month ago and now the new Z4 sDrive35i came out with twin turbo.

If anyone has any links or video links to share about the 2 would be great.

07Z4M4me · 07-29-2009, 08:07 AM

Top Gear ran the the Z4M around their track in 1:26.0, and the new one in 1:28.2 I believe. This is the most recent direct comparison I can think of.

Hawkeye · 07-29-2009, 09:29 AM

They are really not that comparable of cars. If you look at the other threads in here the new Z4 has moved more towards a luxury vehicle and is not even close to as sporty.

They are two completely different cars as far as I am concerned. Be happy with your M, I know that is the one I would rather have!

pbdm4k · 07-29-2009, 10:01 AM

Agreed... The new Z4 is *deflated balloon*...
Pffffffft!

I'll keep my 3.0s thank you very much!

Incompatible · 07-29-2009, 10:05 AM

Your Z4M is a true sports car with untapped performance potential.

The E89 is a sporty type luxury car for those who want to look fast with no real concern about driving fast. Horsepower numbers are only one part of the performance equation.

E82tt6 · 07-29-2009, 10:07 AM

That 1:26 was in the wet, also.

The M is faster. Much lighter, more aggressive gearing, very similar power.

epbrown · 07-29-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flpnout

Did anyone read any comparison yet between the latest Z4 sDrive35i pinned against the current Z4 M roadster as far as which is faster and handles better?

Oh no - just as the 335i/E46 M3 debates start to die down, we get the S35i/Z4M debates?

jragan · 07-29-2009, 11:12 AM

The E89 is much more comparable to a Mercedes SLK or the now defunct Lexus SC430. It's a luxury cruiser, and nothing more.

The E85 and E86 ///Ms with better tires and brakes and conducted by a good driver are fairly close to Porsche GT3 territory in terms of track performance.

So obvioulsy there really is no comparison between the current and last generation Zeds beyond anything more than just their looks.

G80indy · 07-29-2009, 12:00 PM

here you go

enjoy:

Car & Driver comparo
Fifth Gear

and this will get your blood pumpin :

Top Gear -- z4M

Rick Hunter · 07-29-2009, 02:03 PM

flpnout, we all think you made the right decision.

reRESERVEDFX · 07-29-2009, 06:25 PM

If BMW is gonna keep making softies, I think I will have to go over to the last company who sells true performance cars... Porsche.

Besides, nicely equipped SD35i in my showroom was 66k!!!!!!! YOU CAN BUY A NEW E90 M3 FOR THAT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Z4MCJJ · 07-30-2009, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jragan

The E85 and E86 ///Ms with better tires and brakes and conducted by a good driver are fairly close to Porsche GT3 territory in terms of track performance.

So obvioulsy there really is no comparison between the current and last generation Zeds beyond anything more than just their looks.

This is true.

Z3Z4MC · 07-30-2009, 01:56 PM

Manufacturer do listen to customers complaints.
I know prior to picking up my Z4MC, I read a lot of owners reviews on how the ride is harsh, not comfortable, blah, blah, blah.

Well, to these people, the new 09 Z4 was designed specifically for you...soft and comfortable.

Please, if you want luxury comfort, don't buy a sport car, and don't ruin it for the people who truly appreciate a sport car.

end rant.

Tonybest · 07-30-2009, 02:29 PM

^^^^^^^^

Wow...

+1

mhughett · 07-30-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3Z4MC

Manufacturer do listen to customers complaints.
I know prior to picking up my Z4MC, I read a lot of owners reviews on how the ride is harsh, not comfortable, blah, blah, blah.

Well, to these people, the new 09 Z4 was designed specifically for you...soft and comfortable.

Please, if you want luxury comfort, don't buy a sport car, and don't ruin it for the people who truly appreciate a sport car.

end rant.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I saw an email a week or two ago from a guy that thought the Z4 Coupe was the noisiest BMW he had ever driven. Of course his last two cars were a 750i and 5 series and he was only driving the coupe as a loaner while his other car was being worked on. A Z4 coupe owner could make the argument that the 750i rode like a Buick and might be the worst handling BMW he'd ever driven. That doesn't make it a bad car, just not the right car for them.

Z3Z4MC · 07-30-2009, 02:56 PM

It just bother me to see all these new overweight sport cars (ie. Z4, G37) from great companies that designed these new cars specifically for all these whiners who shouldn't be driving a sport car in the first place. Just because you can afford one that doesn't mean you should own one.

krnnerdboy · 07-30-2009, 02:58 PM

Nice...I traded my 997 for this, not by choice(I got offered more than my purchase price) but I don't regret it!!
on a side note...
After reading all the rave reviews on the 135i I decided to test drive one and your right it wasn't egdy enough nor was the turbo power delivery inspiring...I don't get these automotive journalists sometimes. Before trading in my 997 I set my heart on the e92 m3 after driving it until I saw the last z4m on the lot and gave it a drive. The drive was fully engaging and raw, and of course with that sometimes tireing to drive, but that's why I love it!!

congrats

Hawkeye · 07-30-2009, 02:59 PM

Agreed! I think people that want a sports car should be able to deal with one. Or just make the 335i look more sporty or something, don't completely ruin the last real sports car you make for a couple of whiners.

I will probably get a lotus or porsche for my next sports car I guess...

AWM3 · 07-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flpnout

Did anyone read any comparison yet between the latest Z4 sDrive35i pinned against the current Z4 M roadster as far as which is faster and handles better? I just bought a 2008 last of the M roadster about a month ago and now the new Z4 sDrive35i came out with twin turbo.

If anyone has any links or video links to share about the 2 would be great.

I agree with all the above comments. I just wanted to also point out that, since no one is actually buying the new E89 Z4s, there won't be too many direct comparisons other than those by journalists.

Rick Hunter · 07-30-2009, 11:44 PM

Well... there's always my review:

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewto...p?f=23&t=11463

And I'm not a journalist.

Z3Z4MC · 07-31-2009, 12:38 PM

Great all around review. It was good reading.
You sure you not a journalist?

Matty C · 08-02-2009, 02:45 AM

The new Z4 is a Mercedes SLK in a BMW body. It does not compare to the Z4 //M. I was at a track day in Tuttlingen Germany on 1 August and the Z4 //M was flat out kicking the new Z4's butt!

07-29-2009, 02:09 AM	#1
flpnout Major 81 Rep 1,264 Posts Drives: 2010 Dinan S3 Z4-35i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (8) Garage List 2010 E89 Z4 [7.83]	Which is faster 2009 Z4 sDrive35i or Z4 M roadster? Did anyone read any comparison yet between the latest Z4 sDrive35i pinned against the current Z4 M roadster as far as which is faster and handles better? I just bought a 2008 last of the M roadster about a month ago and now the new Z4 sDrive35i came out with twin turbo. If anyone has any links or video links to share about the 2 would be great. __________________ 2015 BMW i3 REX
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

07-29-2009, 08:07 AM	#2
07Z4M4me Private 0 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 07 Z4M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westfield, IN iTrader: (0)	Top Gear ran the the Z4M around their track in 1:26.0, and the new one in 1:28.2 I believe. This is the most recent direct comparison I can think of.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 09:29 AM	#3
Hawkeye Brigadier General 2070 Rep 4,365 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 Coupe, '21 X3, '16 GMC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 GMC Sierra SLT [10.00] 2008 Yamaha R6 [9.00]	They are really not that comparable of cars. If you look at the other threads in here the new Z4 has moved more towards a luxury vehicle and is not even close to as sporty. They are two completely different cars as far as I am concerned. Be happy with your M, I know that is the one I would rather have! __________________ 2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe • 6 MT • Black Saphire Metallic • PP • SP 2016 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Premium Plus 4x4 2017 Harley StreetGlide • Denim Black • V&H Tune 2021 BMW x30i • Phytonic Blue Metallic • Fully loaded
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 10:01 AM	#4
pbdm4k Lieutenant Colonel 74 Rep 1,689 Posts Drives: 2010 335d Join Date: May 2007 Location: North of the Border iTrader: (3)	Agreed... The new Z4 is deflated balloon... Pffffffft! I'll keep my 3.0s thank you very much! __________________ 2010 BMW 335d "Ha! She wants the D." 2006 VW Jetta 2.5 Once upon a time... '03 VW GTI, '99 Audi A4 1.8TQ, '00 VW Jetta 1.85T, '09 BMW 335i xDrive, '04 BMW Z4 3.0i, '01 Audi TT 1.8T, '04 Volvo S80 2.5T
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 10:05 AM	#5
Incompatible Major 55 Rep 1,224 Posts Drives: 07 AW Z4C 3.0Si Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Your Z4M is a true sports car with untapped performance potential. The E89 is a sporty type luxury car for those who want to look fast with no real concern about driving fast. Horsepower numbers are only one part of the performance equation. __________________ If you can't take the time to teach a kid something good, someone will take the time to teach them something bad.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 10:07 AM	#6
E82tt6 Colonel 103 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	That 1:26 was in the wet, also. The M is faster. Much lighter, more aggressive gearing, very similar power. __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 11:12 AM	#8
jragan Imola Lover 26 Rep 749 Posts Drives: 2007 Imola Red M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas iTrader: (0)	The E89 is much more comparable to a Mercedes SLK or the now defunct Lexus SC430. It's a luxury cruiser, and nothing more. The E85 and E86 ///Ms with better tires and brakes and conducted by a good driver are fairly close to Porsche GT3 territory in terms of track performance. So obvioulsy there really is no comparison between the current and last generation Zeds beyond anything more than just their looks. __________________ His: RIP-"Ruby" *E86 ///M Coupe: Pics Track Pics Short Vids Long Vids Hers: 997-1 C4S*: Pics
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 12:00 PM	#9
G80indy Save the Manuals 1714 Rep 2,937 Posts Drives: Z3, E46, G80 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Indy iTrader: (0)	here you go enjoy: Car & Driver comparo Fifth Gear and this will get your blood pumpin : Top Gear -- z4M __________________ 2023 G80 6MT, CCBs 2002 330i Dinan, 5MT 2000 Z3 Conforti, 5MT Last edited by G80indy; 07-29-2009 at 04:35 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 02:03 PM	#10
Rick Hunter Skull Squadron Leader 304 Rep 2,031 Posts Drives: '07 M Coupé & '16 435xi GCoupé Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Emerald City iTrader: (20)	flpnout, we all think you made the right decision. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-29-2009, 06:25 PM	#11
reRESERVEDFX (oO (\|\|\|\|) (\|\|\|\|) Oo) 10 Rep 165 Posts Drives: 06 BMW Z4 3.0i 03 BMW M5 DINAN Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Downers Grove, IL iTrader: (0)	If BMW is gonna keep making softies, I think I will have to go over to the last company who sells true performance cars... Porsche. Besides, nicely equipped SD35i in my showroom was 66k!!!!!!! YOU CAN BUY A NEW E90 M3 FOR THAT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2006 Porsche 911 C4S Black/Black 6MT/Sport Chrono/Extended Leather/GT2 bucket seats/Turbo wheels Soon to come 07 BMW Z4M Coupe Black/Red
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 01:56 PM	#13
Z3Z4MC Private 0 Rep 80 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Manufacturer do listen to customers complaints. I know prior to picking up my Z4MC, I read a lot of owners reviews on how the ride is harsh, not comfortable, blah, blah, blah. Well, to these people, the new 09 Z4 was designed specifically for you...soft and comfortable. Please, if you want luxury comfort, don't buy a sport car, and don't ruin it for the people who truly appreciate a sport car. end rant. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 02:29 PM	#14
Tonybest Enrollment Officer 108 Rep 5,014 Posts Drives: 997.2 Porsche C4S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Montreal, Qc. iTrader: (2)	^^^^^^^^ Wow... +1
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 02:56 PM	#16
Z3Z4MC Private 0 Rep 80 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	It just bother me to see all these new overweight sport cars (ie. Z4, G37) from great companies that designed these new cars specifically for all these whiners who shouldn't be driving a sport car in the first place. Just because you can afford one that doesn't mean you should own one. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 02:58 PM	#17
krnnerdboy Colonel 190 Rep 2,431 Posts Drives: v10 m6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal iTrader: (10)	Nice...I traded my 997 for this, not by choice(I got offered more than my purchase price) but I don't regret it!! on a side note... After reading all the rave reviews on the 135i I decided to test drive one and your right it wasn't egdy enough nor was the turbo power delivery inspiring...I don't get these automotive journalists sometimes. Before trading in my 997 I set my heart on the e92 m3 after driving it until I saw the last z4m on the lot and gave it a drive. The drive was fully engaging and raw, and of course with that sometimes tireing to drive, but that's why I love it!! congrats __________________ F80 m3, 997 gt3, 14 ram ctd, f15 x5, drz400sm Gone:z4m, boss 302, c6 z06, m6,z3m
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 02:59 PM	#18
Hawkeye Brigadier General 2070 Rep 4,365 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 Coupe, '21 X3, '16 GMC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 GMC Sierra SLT [10.00] 2008 Yamaha R6 [9.00]	Agreed! I think people that want a sports car should be able to deal with one. Or just make the 335i look more sporty or something, don't completely ruin the last real sports car you make for a couple of whiners. I will probably get a lotus or porsche for my next sports car I guess... __________________ 2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe • 6 MT • Black Saphire Metallic • PP • SP 2016 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Premium Plus 4x4 2017 Harley StreetGlide • Denim Black • V&H Tune 2021 BMW x30i • Phytonic Blue Metallic • Fully loaded
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-30-2009, 11:44 PM	#20
Rick Hunter Skull Squadron Leader 304 Rep 2,031 Posts Drives: '07 M Coupé & '16 435xi GCoupé Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Emerald City iTrader: (20)	Well... there's always my review: http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewto...p?f=23&t=11463 And I'm not a journalist. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-31-2009, 12:38 PM	#21
Z3Z4MC Private 0 Rep 80 Posts Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Great all around review. It was good reading. You sure you not a journalist? __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 02:45 AM	#22
Matty C First Lieutenant 20 Rep 324 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M Roadster, 2006 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bodensee iTrader: (0)	The new Z4 is a Mercedes SLK in a BMW body. It does not compare to the Z4 //M. I was at a track day in Tuttlingen Germany on 1 August and the Z4 //M was flat out kicking the new Z4's butt!
	Appreciate 0 Quote