Z4m + genuine CSL + spacer help please!!

Beedub · 01-27-2011, 07:14 AM

hey guys,

anyone added a spacer on the front with CSL rims (8.5" remember)? if so what size did you use and did you get any rubbing on full compression at all? or if anyones got any advice on this subject i would really appreciate it!!
from the limited info i can find it seems maybe a 12mm spacer will be the best option? heellpp!

F360C · 01-27-2011, 07:47 AM

What is the offset of a OEM CSL wheel? I run a 15mm on my OEM ZCPs but they are only a 8.0" front and I think also a less aggressive offset then the CSL

inTgr8r · 01-27-2011, 07:53 AM

^WHS
Offset and confirmation of the 8.5" width are necessary.

v3.0si · 01-27-2011, 08:27 AM

ECE CSL...

8.5" x 19" et44 = front
9.5" x 19" et27 = rear

USA ZCP...

8.0" x 19" et47 = front
9.5" x 19" et27 = rear

Beedub · 01-27-2011, 01:15 PM

yes im taking about the genuine euro csl rims with the 8.5" front widths, ET44

would this work ...

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TWH9905013

any advice on this would be great. f360c running 15mm upfront, any rubbing at all?

Quickid · 01-27-2011, 02:11 PM

Compared to the stock Style 224M on our Z4M (18x8 ET42):
- your CSL wheels (19x8.5 ET44) will extend outwards by 4mm
- your CSL + 12.5mm spacer will extend out 16.5 mm

Compared to F360C's set up (ZCP plus 15mm)
- your CSL wheels will retract by 6MM
- your CSL + 12.5mm spacer wll extend by 6.5 mm

I think a 10mm spacer will be just right. It will be equivalent to having a 8.5 ET35, which is a commonly used witdh/offset for aftermarket wheels for Z4Ms.

Beedub · 01-28-2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickid

Compared to the stock Style 224M on our Z4M (18x8 ET42):
- your CSL wheels (19x8.5 ET44) will extend outwards by 4mm
- your CSL + 12.5mm spacer will extend out 16.5 mm

Compared to F360C's set up (ZCP plus 15mm)
- your CSL wheels will retract by 6MM
- your CSL + 12.5mm spacer wll extend by 6.5 mm

I think a 10mm spacer will be just right. It will be equivalent to having a 8.5 ET35, which is a commonly used witdh/offset for aftermarket wheels for Z4Ms.

thankyou...... im struggling to find a true hubcentric 10mm spacer.... everyone that sells them has alittle side note that a 10mm spacer maybe cause vibration due to not sitting flush on the hub.... they ALL say a 12mm spacer and above do not suffer this problem. so unfortunatly it seems a 12mm is a must to get correct seating for safe use.

dekaliber · 01-28-2011, 07:45 AM

I think you might need something like this:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TWH9905001

Quickid · 01-28-2011, 09:34 AM

I have 10mm hubcentric spaces which I bought from Rogue Engineering.

Here you'll see "10MM" stamped on the spacer itself and it's definitely hubcentric:

http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogue/WH/WSPACER.html

Beedub · 01-28-2011, 12:06 PM

quickid..... thankyou bro!!

Quickid · 01-30-2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beedub

quickid..... thankyou bro!!

M-Roadster · 03-03-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beedub

anyone added a spacer on the front with CSL rims (8.5" remember)? if so what size did you use and did you get any rubbing on full compression at all?

Found a solution?

I run them with 235/35/19 and 265/35/19 Michelin PS2's and a 10 mm spacer. Without lowering no problem. I've fitted a KW V3 coilover-kit and lowered 3.5 cm. Set the damping to "extremely hard". Rubbing as h*ll in the front, but it drives sóóóóó nice!

Beedub · 03-14-2011, 01:57 PM

i went with a 12mm spacer which looks so agreesive, looks perfect imo...... im on stock suspension so no probs at all.......

when i get coilovers i want STOCK ride height, ill dial in some camber, perfect....

every single vendor i contacted said 10mm spacers on a bmw is a bad idea... the hubcentric lip extends 11mm which causes a gap between spacer and hub.........
also i now have my BBK installed and i like the extra caliper clearance the 12mm gives me.

did you get any pics with the rims off and the spacer installed?? would like to see how it all fits together in the 10mm size.

Beedub · 03-14-2011, 02:07 PM

M-Roadster · 03-15-2011, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beedub

every single vendor i contacted said 10mm spacers on a bmw is a bad idea... the hubcentric lip extends 11mm which causes a gap between spacer and hub.........

Uhm... gap? I have 10mm spacers, but no gap.

Or atleast, not that I can see...

Beedub · 03-15-2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Roadster

Uhm... gap? I have 10mm spacers, but no gap.

Or atleast, not that I can see...

check out tuners site under 10mm spacers, on bmw its causes a small gap between the hub and spacer, its not completely flush....

Beedub · 03-15-2011, 12:37 PM

the hub lip extends like 10.7mm you spacer is 10.mm therefor a slight gap is left..

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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Z4m + genuine CSL + spacer help please!! hey guys, anyone added a spacer on the front with CSL rims (8.5" remember)? if so what size did you use and did you get any rubbing on full compression at all? or if anyones got any advice on this subject i would really appreciate it!! from the limited info i can find it seems maybe a 12mm spacer will be the best option? heellpp!
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v3.0si Lieutenant 17 Rep 409 Posts Drives: '08 Z4C 3.0si Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: midwest iTrader: (2)	ECE CSL... 8.5" x 19" et44 = front 9.5" x 19" et27 = rear USA ZCP... 8.0" x 19" et47 = front 9.5" x 19" et27 = rear __________________ \| v3.0si \| \| '08 Z4Coupe 3.0si \| BMW Aero \| BMW Performance \|
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	yes im taking about the genuine euro csl rims with the 8.5" front widths, ET44 would this work ... http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TWH9905013 any advice on this would be great. f360c running 15mm upfront, any rubbing at all?
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01-27-2011, 02:11 PM	#6
Quickid First Lieutenant 11 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 08 Z4MC, 06 X5 4.4i, 99 323i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (4)	Compared to the stock Style 224M on our Z4M (18x8 ET42): - your CSL wheels (19x8.5 ET44) will extend outwards by 4mm - your CSL + 12.5mm spacer will extend out 16.5 mm Compared to F360C's set up (ZCP plus 15mm) - your CSL wheels will retract by 6MM - your CSL + 12.5mm spacer wll extend by 6.5 mm I think a 10mm spacer will be just right. It will be equivalent to having a 8.5 ET35, which is a commonly used witdh/offset for aftermarket wheels for Z4Ms. __________________
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01-28-2011, 07:45 AM	#8
dekaliber Major 75 Rep 1,143 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC, '11 JCW, '18 Z06 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	I think you might need something like this: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TWH9905001
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01-28-2011, 09:34 AM	#9
Quickid First Lieutenant 11 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 08 Z4MC, 06 X5 4.4i, 99 323i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (4)	I have 10mm hubcentric spaces which I bought from Rogue Engineering. Here you'll see "10MM" stamped on the spacer itself and it's definitely hubcentric: http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogue/WH/WSPACER.html __________________
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	quickid..... thankyou bro!!
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03-14-2011, 01:57 PM	#13
Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	i went with a 12mm spacer which looks so agreesive, looks perfect imo...... im on stock suspension so no probs at all....... when i get coilovers i want STOCK ride height, ill dial in some camber, perfect.... every single vendor i contacted said 10mm spacers on a bmw is a bad idea... the hubcentric lip extends 11mm which causes a gap between spacer and hub......... also i now have my BBK installed and i like the extra caliper clearance the 12mm gives me. did you get any pics with the rims off and the spacer installed?? would like to see how it all fits together in the 10mm size. __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,329 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	the hub lip extends like 10.7mm you spacer is 10.mm therefor a slight gap is left.. __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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