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      10-14-2009, 12:15 PM   #23
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ESS when is this kit being released in the UK and can i assume that the rrp will be between £4-£5k?
Correct on the price. We are planning to release stage 1 very soon and stage 2-3 at the end of the year.

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hi roman,
will there be or is there an australian distributor, any idea on shipping to aus,
and what is the story with fueling/computer, is it just a reflash?
also what is stage 2 cost, and does the engine need any internals changed/ or a decompression plate??
also in australia we have 98-100 ron fuel, would there still be mods needed and what sort of power would u expect stage 2?
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We have not set pricing on the Stage 2 product yet. We are currently working to set up a couple Australian dealers. The software is a re-flash done to the cars DME. You only need to upgrade internals if you are building a stage 3 kit. Stage 2 is rated at 500 and 550 hp.

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Another potential UK customer here

So about 260lb.ft. and 400hp to the wheels? How does that compare to a stock Z4M at the wheels?

A stock Z4M on our dyno with 93 octane fuel puts down about 250 lb/ft and 280 hp. The difference with the VT kit if you look at the dyno is that it makes max torque thru the entire powerband instead of dropping off at 5k like the stock car.

Also what happens when we need to to take our cars in for Inspection 1/2?

We cant help with inspections

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      10-14-2009, 12:30 PM   #24
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This exact same system in a stage 3 form is currently used in the worlds fastest Z4M coupe "750 hp" that is going to attempt to break the Nurburgring lap record.
That is so exciting! When are you guys going to attempt for the lap record? Keep us posted and good luck
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      10-15-2009, 08:24 AM   #25
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What's the estimated 1/4 mile with stage 1/2/3? How does the m3 fare with the same equipment?
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      10-15-2009, 10:48 AM   #26
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What's the estimated 1/4 mile with stage 1/2/3? How does the m3 fare with the same equipment?
We do not do alot of 1/4 mile testing but here is a video of the same stage 1 kit on a M3 doing a top speed run.

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      10-15-2009, 01:48 PM   #27
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So what does stage 2 involve? Intercooler? Air-air or water-air? If I were to add forced induction to a normally aspirated engine I wouldn't want to do it without some form of intercooler.

Is stage 1 a DIY (assuming you have some modicum of skills and tools)? Stage 2? I know stage 3 won't be DIY.

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      10-15-2009, 02:17 PM   #28
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So what does stage 2 involve? Intercooler? Air-air or water-air? If I were to add forced induction to a normally aspirated engine I wouldn't want to do it without some form of intercooler.

Is stage 1 a DIY (assuming you have some modicum of skills and tools)? Stage 2? I know stage 3 won't be DIY.

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Stage 2 includes an air/air FMIC. Stage 1 and 2 can be DIY kits for someone who knows their way around this motor or a good shop. Stage 3 can only be done by us.
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Thanks Rom3n! That's pretty much what I figured. Keep up the good work.
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      10-15-2009, 08:28 PM   #30
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Rom3n,
Are there any anecdotes of customers who have run a quarter mile or timed a 0-60 with any of the kits? If not, would you mind running one? Please? I'm interested, but want to know more (tangible info) about the product. Thanks!
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As far as 1/4 mile and 0-60, those times cannot be spec'd since it is so driver and setup dependent. You gotta realize this is a turns-first car ... IRS, no rear wheel travel for launching, etc

That said, it has the power to weight ratio to run a solid low 12 second quarter mile in the mid to high teens. It has some parasitic loss on the low end and centrifugal based blower setups aren't torque monsters, so I'd imagine that 0-60 isn't that greatly improved ...maybe low 4s if traction was excellent.
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As far as 1/4 mile and 0-60, those times cannot be spec'd since it is so driver and setup dependent. You gotta realize this is a turns-first car ... IRS, no rear wheel travel for launching, etc.
For this reason, the super high horse power guys all use 60mph-130mph times using a VBOX to compare -- Has ESS performed any timings in this range?
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      10-16-2009, 12:24 PM   #33
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For this reason, the super high horse power guys all use 60mph-130mph times using a VBOX to compare -- Has ESS performed any timings in this range?
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=289094
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      10-25-2009, 02:06 AM   #34
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what r some other mods on this z

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During our standard 40k + miles of R&D all of our test cars have their motors inspected for unusual wear or damage. This kit in another version was tested long ago for the E46 M3 application and has been running in lots of cars all over the world with no issues. With proper tuning and lower boost levels FI can be very safe on a stock motor. Where you will have issues is when a tuner does not tune properly or decides to run levels of boost that exceed what is safe for the stock motor. The VT stage 1 is a very low boost kit. When we get to something extreme like the high boost VT stage 3 we do a proper build out of the motor upgrading the pistons and rods.






We have decided to create a new series for both the E46 M3 and the Z4M based on the Vortech blower for several reasons. First is the Vortech V3 blower can be installed in a stage 1 445 hp kit and later be used in a 500-550 hp stage 2 kit and even a 700+ Stage 3 kit if the customer decides to upgrade. We have had alot of CFR customers wanting to upgrade their kits to make more power. To do this it would require the blower to be replaced. The ASA blower used in the CFR series kit can only produce power to around 550 hp. The second reason for the change is cost. We have recieved alot of email and phone calls from customers wanting a lower priced option for the Z4M. The ASA blower is expensive and connot be used in an entry level kit like the Vortech, so instead of having 3 or 4 different product lines and models we simplified it.

This new line allows us to make an affordable and simple stage 1 product that has a easy to understand upgrade path. This exact same system in a stage 3 form is currently used in the worlds fastest Z4M coupe "750 hp" that is going to attempt to break the Nurburgring lap record.



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      11-12-2009, 04:33 PM   #35
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New dynos for the VT2-500-550 posted on first page
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      11-12-2009, 04:39 PM   #36
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New dynos for the VT2-500-550 posted on first page
Thats awesome!
Cars were stock except fot the kit right? IE no exhaust mods?
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Thats awesome!
Cars were stock except fot the kit right? IE no exhaust mods?
VT2-550 has euro headers. These will be required along with 93 octane fuel. VT2-500 has stock US exhaust and can make this power on 91 octane.
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Thats cool, we have good fuel and euro headers already.
It just shows that you could probably pull alot more power with larger headers and full exhaust.
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      11-12-2009, 05:51 PM   #39
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Damn, I want that wing.....I contacted GOKE and it's like $1500

Waiting for all ESS FI options....
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hi roman,
any news on cost and an aussie distributor?
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      11-12-2009, 06:17 PM   #41
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hi roman,
any news on cost and an aussie distributor?
This is a aussie dealer who can also flash our software in house.

http://www.worxauto.com.au/

We have not set pricing on VT2-500-550 yet as it is not scheduled for release until late December early january. VT1-450 will be available very soon and it will be $6,495 USD.
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Glad to see the prices on the new kits will be better than the current option and just as powerful. I for one will be interested in the VT2 kit. Do you offer some type of ecu map select switch so I could switch tunes from 100 octane to 91 octane?

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      11-19-2009, 10:01 AM   #43
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Glad to see the prices on the new kits will be better than the current option and just as powerful. I for one will be interested in the VT2 kit. Do you offer some type of ecu map select switch so I could switch tunes from 100 octane to 91 octane?

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The software will adapt to 100 octane.
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prices on the stage II and III kits? what internals & other parts need to be changed?
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