265/35/18 front GURUS NEEDED!

i2ichal2dZ4M · 03-31-2013, 11:52 PM

Hey guys, I got a set of 18x9.5 +35 squared with 265/35/18 tires on. Fronts rub the shock tower without a spacer. Before I order one, is 5mm enough or 10mm recommended? Eventually im sizing down to 255 squared but the tires on the wheels currently are still good. THANKS!

dorifto88 · 04-01-2013, 12:21 AM

what suspension do you have? I used a 5 in the front only because the wheel physically hit the coilover without it.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 04-01-2013, 12:31 AM

stock suspension, turner camber shims pins removed

dorifto88 · 04-01-2013, 12:57 AM

i think you are going to need some more negative camber than removing what the stock pins might allow, but just try the 5mm.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 04-01-2013, 01:15 AM

im at -2.5 fronts

a_riddler · 04-01-2013, 10:21 AM

5mm should be fine. For a 265et35 front, I found that a minimum -2.7 is needed. congrats on the new wheels!

Finnegan · 04-01-2013, 12:56 PM

5mm minimum of space between wheel/tire and strut is recommended by Turner when using camber washers.

Do the wheels/tires contact the strut only under load? In other words, is there space between the strut and wheel/tire when parked?

If the wheels/tires are in contact with the strut with car parked you're going to need more than 5mm. If you go 10mm make sure it has a hubcentric lip like these. Otherwise, the 5MM should be fine.

Max I've found I can get with stock suspension with 2 washers is about -2.6. YMMD, but you may need camber plates to run that wide a tire. Plates would probably omit the need for spacers as well, assuming you removed the camber washers. Camber washers push the bottom of the strut outwards, decreasing the amount of space available between strut and wheel/tire.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 04-01-2013, 11:17 PM

thanks guy! was able to borrow a set of 5mm and a set of 10mm. 10mm looks alot more promising and has more cushion. 5mm looks like it will cut it very close. My ideal setup is 255 squared i need to waste these 265 tires.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 04-01-2013, 11:20 PM

my plan is to eventually to get coils with camber plates, but im learning the car on the track a step at a time. first was completely stock for a couple track days. now i have upgrade my tires/wheels and aligment settings. dont want to dive straight into mods.

Finnegan · 04-02-2013, 12:11 AM

Totally agree with your plan.

kklin · 04-09-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by i2ichal2dZ4M

Hey guys, I got a set of 18x9.5 +35 squared with 265/35/18 tires on. Fronts rub the shock tower without a spacer. Before I order one, is 5mm enough or 10mm recommended? Eventually im sizing down to 255 squared but the tires on the wheels currently are still good. THANKS!

I have the same size wheels and tires (old Star Specs) in front with 5mm spacer.

All detailed here with pictures - kklin's Z4 M Coupe for SCCA BSP (road tire)

Daemonblitz · 04-09-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by i2ichal2dZ4M

stock suspension, turner camber shims pins removed

A little offtopic but - you were only able to get as much as -2.5 with turner camber shims and pins removed ?

Finnegan · 04-09-2013, 09:30 PM

I'll weigh in. Two washers, 235/40 265/35, -2.6. Stock suspension, shocks full inboard.

Kgolf31 · 04-09-2013, 10:05 PM

-2.3* Here with 2 washers running 235/45, 265/40

Probably going to be removing the shims here soon though.

i2ichal2dZ4M · 04-09-2013, 11:07 PM

only 2.5 up font. one side would go to -3 but other side maxed at -2.5. im on stock hight, havent rubbed yet!!

a_riddler · 04-10-2013, 10:43 AM

Sexy, nice job!

F360C · 05-08-2013, 07:19 PM

Did the 5mm shims solve your issue?

i2ichal2dZ4M · 05-08-2013, 08:10 PM

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Did the 5mm shims solve your issue?

Yes it did, for now atleast, since i'm on stock height. Already went to a track day and no rubbing whatsoever!

03-31-2013, 11:52 PM	#1
i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	265/35/18 front GURUS NEEDED! Hey guys, I got a set of 18x9.5 +35 squared with 265/35/18 tires on. Fronts rub the shock tower without a spacer. Before I order one, is 5mm enough or 10mm recommended? Eventually im sizing down to 255 squared but the tires on the wheels currently are still good. THANKS! __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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dorifto88 Major 48 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: 88 Nissan Pathfinder Join Date: May 2010 Location: cowtown iTrader: (4)	what suspension do you have? I used a 5 in the front only because the wheel physically hit the coilover without it.
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i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	stock suspension, turner camber shims pins removed __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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04-01-2013, 12:57 AM	#4
dorifto88 Major 48 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: 88 Nissan Pathfinder Join Date: May 2010 Location: cowtown iTrader: (4)	i think you are going to need some more negative camber than removing what the stock pins might allow, but just try the 5mm.
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04-01-2013, 01:15 AM	#5
i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	im at -2.5 fronts __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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04-01-2013, 10:21 AM	#6
a_riddler Bimmer Noob 30 Rep 566 Posts Drives: 08 Z4MC;08 MBZ E350 4Matic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (6)	5mm should be fine. For a 265et35 front, I found that a minimum -2.7 is needed. congrats on the new wheels! __________________ 08 Z4MC /// DKF Exhaust, Stoptech 6/4 BBK, TCK Coilovers, Strong-Strut, Apex EC-7's, APR Splitter/Wing, AFE Intake, Underdrive pulleys, AS SSK, Jaffster, UUC Tranny Mounts, Matte Grill, RPI Scoop, CF Badges
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04-01-2013, 12:56 PM	#7
Finnegan Dog Listener 701 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	5mm minimum of space between wheel/tire and strut is recommended by Turner when using camber washers. Do the wheels/tires contact the strut only under load? In other words, is there space between the strut and wheel/tire when parked? If the wheels/tires are in contact with the strut with car parked you're going to need more than 5mm. If you go 10mm make sure it has a hubcentric lip like these. Otherwise, the 5MM should be fine. Max I've found I can get with stock suspension with 2 washers is about -2.6. YMMD, but you may need camber plates to run that wide a tire. Plates would probably omit the need for spacers as well, assuming you removed the camber washers. Camber washers push the bottom of the strut outwards, decreasing the amount of space available between strut and wheel/tire.
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04-01-2013, 11:17 PM	#8
i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	thanks guy! was able to borrow a set of 5mm and a set of 10mm. 10mm looks alot more promising and has more cushion. 5mm looks like it will cut it very close. My ideal setup is 255 squared i need to waste these 265 tires. __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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04-01-2013, 11:20 PM	#9
i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	my plan is to eventually to get coils with camber plates, but im learning the car on the track a step at a time. first was completely stock for a couple track days. now i have upgrade my tires/wheels and aligment settings. dont want to dive straight into mods. __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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04-02-2013, 12:11 AM	#10
Finnegan Dog Listener 701 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	Totally agree with your plan.
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04-09-2013, 09:30 PM	#13
Finnegan Dog Listener 701 Rep 7,850 Posts Drives: Z4M/. Z3M, E36/46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Teaching the dog to slalom iTrader: (22)	I'll weigh in. Two washers, 235/40 265/35, -2.6. Stock suspension, shocks full inboard.
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04-09-2013, 10:05 PM	#14
Kgolf31 Brigadier General 459 Rep 4,531 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC, 2012 128i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio iTrader: (4)	-2.3* Here with 2 washers running 235/45, 265/40 Probably going to be removing the shims here soon though.
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04-09-2013, 11:07 PM	#15
i2ichal2dZ4M Lieutenant 62 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2007 BSM Z4MC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	only 2.5 up font. one side would go to -3 but other side maxed at -2.5. im on stock hight, havent rubbed yet!! __________________ 2007 BSM Z4M Coupe - 18" VOLK TE37 - 18" Apex ARC-8 - GC Track/Street
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04-10-2013, 10:43 AM	#16
a_riddler Bimmer Noob 30 Rep 566 Posts Drives: 08 Z4MC;08 MBZ E350 4Matic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (6)	Sexy, nice job! __________________ 08 Z4MC /// DKF Exhaust, Stoptech 6/4 BBK, TCK Coilovers, Strong-Strut, Apex EC-7's, APR Splitter/Wing, AFE Intake, Underdrive pulleys, AS SSK, Jaffster, UUC Tranny Mounts, Matte Grill, RPI Scoop, CF Badges
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05-08-2013, 07:19 PM	#17
F360C Major 366 Rep 1,373 Posts Drives: E86 S54 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hoboken, NJ iTrader: (2)	Did the 5mm shims solve your issue? __________________ 07 Z4 M Coupe AW/IR
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