Supercharged E85 M Roadster

[deemo319]

Does anyone know anything about this car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401226937177

[inTgr8r]

Haven't seen that car before....

Good lord, who in their right mind would build a TiAg with sepang/aluminum interior?????
At least it's only seats and door cards.

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Haven't seen that car before....

Good lord, who in their right mind would build a TiAg with sepang/aluminum interior?????
At least it's only seats and door cards.

Probably someone that really liked silver I presume.

[Beedub]

it looks brand new!!

it was a member on here jm006 or something like that..... i remember him adding the s/c kit and a few years later swapping the intake setup and trying to find a PV that didnt have the whistle noise the VT units have.

super clean car, wonder what he traded it for!!

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by deemo319

Probably someone that really liked silver I presume.

Yeah, I guess so....
The Aluminum trim might have been swapped in later.

Either way it wouldn't stop me from picking up an otherwise clean car.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by deemo319

Probably someone that really liked silver I presume.

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Yeah, I guess so....
The Aluminum trim might have been swapped in later.

Either way it wouldn't stop me from picking up an otherwise clean car.

just checked the VIN.
this was a factory order with these colors.

Also.... the top is dark beige

[Jsinghzzzz]

Wow, can't believe this post is over a year old. Guy has been regularly putting it on eBay but no one seems to be biting over $20k. I really wish the interior was black, that brown is no bueno on the silver.

https://www.dmautosales.com/2006-bmw...ter-c-1343.htm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-BMW-Z4...-/401425102076

[NickyC]

Check this thread out, I asked about this car awhile back and some nice forum members linked me to some threads about it. It was owned by a member of this forum, and everything appears to be legit.

If it weren't for the awful color combo I probably would have bought it by now. The white top coupled with the brown leather seats is just, well....not optimal in my opinion.

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1385155

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Check this thread out, I asked about this car awhile back and some nice forum members linked me to some threads about it. It was owned by a member of this forum, and everything appears to be legit.

If it weren't for the awful color combo I probably would have bought it by now. The white top coupled with the brown leather seats is just, well....not optimal in my opinion.

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1385155

That car is still for sale in Chicago. They don't want to carry that inventory through the winter!

It's currently on eBay and I have never seen the bidding get very high.

Someone may be laying in wait for the right time to pull the trigger. I keep looking at it myself.

[Jsinghzzzz]

I imagine it wouldn't be hard to swap the seats to a black color from a salvaged z4

[Boosted 1]

I actually like the seats. Its the top that makes it look bad to me.

[NickyC]

I do have a question about this car however, and it's in regards to getting it registered. I've just learned recently that ESS kits are NOT OBD2 compliant (which is a huge bummer to me as I've been seriously considering this step for my car). So if you buy this car, how do you get it registered without completely removing the kit prior to having it checked out? As well, how do the owners of an ESS kit on their Z4Ms get around the OBD2 check? Does everybody just uninstall the kit, get it checked out, then put the kit back on the car? That would be an enormous expense if you couldn't do it yourself. Anybody know? Thanks a lot.

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by NickyC

I do have a question about this car however, and it's in regards to getting it registered. I've just learned recently that ESS kits are NOT OBD2 compliant (which is a huge bummer to me as I've been seriously considering this step for my car). So if you buy this car, how do you get it registered without completely removing the kit prior to having it checked out? As well, how do the owners of an ESS kit on their Z4Ms get around the OBD2 check? Does everybody just uninstall the kit, get it checked out, then put the kit back on the car? That would be an enormous expense if you couldn't do it yourself. Anybody know? Thanks a lot.

There are plenty of ESS and VF SC M's and non M's around. I think it is the CARB Compliance that is the kicker in California.
OBD2 "compliant" as far as I know is that the readiness sensors read ready at emmision time.

My VF SC non M passes smog and I am far past the original kits capabilities

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

There are plenty of ESS and VF SC M's and non M's around. I think it is the CARB Compliance that is the kicker in California.
OBD2 "compliant" as far as I know is that the readiness sensors read ready at emmision time.

My VF SC non M passes smog and I am far past the original kits capabilities

Thanks, but I mean does the OBD2 sensor read as "compliant" during testing? We don't have emissions testing in Missouri (no tail pipe sniffer), but they do plug the cable in and check. Do the ESS kits fail this test, and if so, how are people getting around that without uninstalling the whole kit? Thanks.

[pokeybritches]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Thanks, but I mean does the OBD2 sensor read as "compliant" during testing? We don't have emissions testing in Missouri (no tail pipe sniffer), but they do plug the cable in and check. Do the ESS kits fail this test, and if so, how are people getting around that without uninstalling the whole kit? Thanks.

The kits "can" be OBD2 compliant. It depends on whether the tune is a US-based tune, or a Euro-based tune.

For a US-based tune to be OBD2 compliant, either cats need to be in place, or certain tuning tricks need to be employed to get around the catalyst efficiency test which the ECU periodically runs.

Euro-based tunes will not pass OBD2 inspection. This is because the ECU is not programmed run the catalyst efficiency tests that the OBD2 inspection requires. The perk of the Euro-based tune is the ability to run catless (as long as O2 sensors are in place) and not throw a CEL. Rumor has it that Euro-based tunes make more power, but I've not seen any substantiated evidence to verify the rumor.

My Cayman and both my Z4M's have Euro tunes. My Cayman is catless; my ESS Z4M has DKF 100 cell cats; my G-Power Z4M has 200 cell HJS cats. None throw a CEL, but none will pass OBD2 compliance checks either.

[Twixboy]

Looks like the original owner traded it in at the same dealer that is trying to sell it now, so it has been in their inventory for 11 months. My first thought is they like to keep it around their showroom or use it as a fun company car, but the mileage has only gone up 62 miles since it was traded in.

Originally Posted by pokeybritches

My Cayman and both my Z4M's have Euro tunes. My Cayman is catless; my ESS Z4M has DKF 100 cell cats; my G-Power Z4M has 200 cell HJS cats. None throw a CEL, but none will pass OBD2 compliance checks either.

Whoa, when did you get a Cayman? Is that the one you have with you overseas?

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by pokeybritches

The kits "can" be OBD2 compliant. It depends on whether the tune is a US-based tune, or a Euro-based tune.

For a US-based tune to be OBD2 compliant, either cats need to be in place, or certain tuning tricks need to be employed to get around the catalyst efficiency test which the ECU periodically runs.

Euro-based tunes will not pass OBD2 inspection. This is because the ECU is not programmed run the catalyst efficiency tests that the OBD2 inspection requires. The perk of the Euro-based tune is the ability to run catless (as long as O2 sensors are in place) and not throw a CEL. Rumor has it that Euro-based tunes make more power, but I've not seen any substantiated evidence to verify the rumor.

My Cayman and both my Z4M's have Euro tunes. My Cayman is catless; my ESS Z4M has DKF 100 cell cats; my G-Power Z4M has 200 cell HJS cats. None throw a CEL, but none will pass OBD2 compliance checks either.

Thanks for the help, nice stable of cars you have there! My car has the main cats included with the headers still installed, but I do have a an aftermarket S pipe on the car. I'm assuming the tune that comes from ESS for one of their SC kits for the Z4M won't allow the car to pass the OBD2 check, or am I wrong in that assumption? They make mention of that on their website so I have to imagine I'd have to get a tune from somebody who knew they were intentionally trying to get around the OBD2 issue. Not sure I even want to go down this road in the first place. I probably just need to call them and see what the deal is.

[garz747]

My coupe only has 17000 miles but my seats sure dont look like that with 10000?

[Twixboy]

Originally Posted by garz747

My coupe only has 17000 miles but my seats sure dont look like that with 10000?

My seats have over 60k miles on them and look better than those seats. I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the previous owner of my car was a 95 lb grandma. Those seats don't really have any wear on them, they just look a bit stretched. Bet you anything the original owner is over 200 lbs.

[Beedub]

Originally Posted by Twixboy

My seats have over 60k miles on them and look better than those seats. I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the previous owner of my car was a 95 lb grandma. Those seats don't really have any wear on them, they just look a bit stretched. Bet you anything the original owner is over 200 lbs.

very little wear on these seats i agree, as you say just the usual nappa stretch areas...

[pokeybritches]

Originally Posted by Twixboy

Whoa, when did you get a Cayman? Is that the one you have with you overseas?

My one year assignment turned into two years, and I had to get a temporary car. My Z's are all too modified to pass through local customs, and then make a return trip... not to mention it would have cost me $7k to rent a car for the additional 16 months. I went to look at a 996 Turbo since it would be legal to import back into the US, but wasn't satisfied with the condition. Some of the repair bills were 5 figures lol. I saw the 987.2 Cayman S while I was at the dealer, and I've loved every second with it. I should do a comparison to the Z

[pokeybritches]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Thanks for the help, nice stable of cars you have there! My car has the main cats included with the headers still installed, but I do have a an aftermarket S pipe on the car. I'm assuming the tune that comes from ESS for one of their SC kits for the Z4M won't allow the car to pass the OBD2 check, or am I wrong in that assumption? They make mention of that on their website so I have to imagine I'd have to get a tune from somebody who knew they were intentionally trying to get around the OBD2 issue. Not sure I even want to go down this road in the first place. I probably just need to call them and see what the deal is.

Thanks! Unfortunately I only have a short time with Cayman, since it's not US-spec and can't be imported.

You should have no issue with emissions if you have a US-based tune and catted headers. I confirmed with my friend that his ESS supercharged Z4M passed OBD2 last year. I'd still call ESS to make sure.