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      01-30-2011, 11:13 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by O-cha View Post
No, you said specifically "don't give me any of that "don't overuse the brakes line"" And that's exactly what I'm giving you. If you're overheating them you are overusing them. They cannot take constant balls out laps, and if you are you're overusing them. Saying otherwise means you assume that BMW should have fit the car with brakes that could and that's totally unrealistic. You have to conserve them, period.

And again, to drive the point home, even stoptechs or brembos on the car with Rcomps can be "overused" without forced air cooling in place. So even if BMW fitted them which is COMPLETELY unrealistic we would be in the same boat.
The sentiment I was referring to is, "Go fast but use the brakes less," which doesn't add up. If your brakes are overheating, you need to use them less, which means you will turn slower laps. You and I seem to be interpreting the term "overuse" differently in that sense.

I never said BMW should have done this or that apart from pointing out that their stock systems seem to be relatively underperforming compared to the competition.

I never claimed aftermarket kits would solve the issue. I said, "The critical variable in sustained operation is not really the mass of the rotors, but their ability to transfer heat into the environment, which ultimately boils down to cooling and forced convection."
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