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      06-17-2015, 09:12 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by pokeybritches View Post
5 horsepower from a real tuner is about the max you can expect, unless you've deviated significantly from stock hardware. I wouldn't trust anyone that told me they could gain 20 horsepower on an otherwise stock car. Additionally, power achieved on a dyno can vary by 10 horsepower between runs. So, I could easily show my worst and best runs of the day, and without changing anything, show a 10 horsepower gain from doing "mod x".

Catless headers with relocated O2 sensors and secondary race cats (like HJS) will provide the most power gain without going forced induction.
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Originally Posted by Huz-Z View Post
I don't think 5 hp would be even noticeable on on one of these cars, although you would notice the time and effort you took to install the thing and dearly miss the money you spent on it.
Why then do a lot of tuners promise +20hp then if its not possible? Or they do a lot of dynos and pick the best one and "sell" that?
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